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Topic: Four Funneled Andrea Doria

kaiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 3370

posted 08-18-2005 09:56 PM

I've just come across a reference to a planned pair of sister ships for NGI that were apparently to be built prior to World War I and to be called Andrea Doria and Camillio di Cavour (not sure about the spelling of the latter). They were to have 4 funnels and be about 700 feet long. Plans were apparently drawn up and everything set to go but they were never built.

Is anyone aware of this and if so any renderings? I thought I knew all there was to know about the four funneled liners but I wasn't aware of this.

Regards, Kaiser

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 08-19-2005 12:13 AM

Kaiser, this is interesting. I didn't know this, but I know the name of the latter was CAMILLO di CAVOUR.

The vessel's name came from Count Camillo Benso di Cavour. He was a statesman and a leading figure in Italy's unification and also the first Prime Minister of the new Kingdom of Italy.

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Commodore
First Class Passenger
Member # 1575

posted 08-19-2005 12:15 AM

Argh-Beat me to it- all well, interesting thread topic anyway!

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 08-21-2005 09:52 AM

The projected liner is well documented in Maurizio Eliseo fabulous Transatlantici.
It has a color side elevation, but I won't scan it as it damages the books spine.
Surely there must be something on the net?
The 4 funnelled Ad would have been as elegant as Lusitania/Mauretania !

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 08-21-2005 12:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sslewis:
The projected liner is well documented in Maurizio Eliseo fabulous Transatlantici.
It has a color side elevation, but I won't scan it as it damages the books spine.
Surely there must be something on the net?
The 4 funnelled Ad would have been as elegant as Lusitania/Mauretania !

Thanks for reminding us where to see this wonderful ship! The book has not only a color side-elevation, but also color, almost 3-D general arrangement plans. These would have been very interesting vessels, had they been built.

You're right about being impossible to scan; for such an expensive book, no one is going to split it open just to scan one page!

Rich

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kaiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 3370

posted 08-21-2005 09:55 PM

Thank you very much sslewis. I think a trip to the Vancouver Public Library is in order. Something tells me that this book may not be easy to find, but it sounds like it is worth the effort.

I'm quite surprised that these planned ships weren't mentioned in "Majesty at Sea" ... that book is so detailed and thorough. I'm assuming that it isn't in "Damned by Destiny", a book that is next on my "to get" list.

Does the book mention the planned tonnage of the Andrea Doria and her sister?

Regards, Kaiser

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 08-22-2005 07:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by kaiser:

I'm quite surprised that these planned ships weren't mentioned in "Majesty at Sea" ... that book is so detailed and thorough. I'm assuming that it isn't in "Damned by Destiny", a book that is next on my "to get" list.
Does the book mention the planned tonnage of the Andrea Doria and her sister?
Regards, Kaiser

"Majesty at Sea" only deals with the 14 4-funnelled liners which were actually built. "Damned by Destiny" does not mention these 2 Italian liners at all, but they had to be selective out of the literally thousands of planned but unbuilt liners.

According to the plans, the 2 ships would have been 32,000 tons, 237 metres long, 25 knots. They were originally planned about 1913-1914, but World War I intervened. The plans were revised in the 1920s, but I think by then, the original designs might have been out-of-date. The 4th funnel was a dummy, and by 1925, Diesel engines were being considered. With the collapse of Transatlantica Italiana, the plans were shelved forever.

Rich

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 08-23-2005 05:41 AM

I forgot to say that I found a small version of Transatlantici whilst shopping at a supermarket in Italy!
It is not a soft cover, and many photos disappear from the large sized Transatlantici.
However, I'll try and scan it this weekend as it is due back from loan!

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