OCEAN LINER BAZAAR AND COLLECTORS PANEL DISCUSSION

Sponsored by the Port of New York Branch of the World Ship Society

Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 10:00 A.M. to 4:30 P.M.
Abigail Adams Smith Auditorium
417 East 61st Street in New York City
(between First and York Avenues)

The Port of New York Branch of the World Ship Society will sponsor an Ocean Liner Bazaar on Saturday, June 18, 2005 from 10:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M.
at the Abigail Adams Smith Auditorium 417 East 61st Street in New York City
(between First and York Avenues)

A group of 10 to 15 vendors will offer for sale interesting and unique memorabilia from passenger ships past and present, including china, silverware, medallions, models, deck plans, pins, pendants, prints, posters, paperweights, brochures, ashtrays and key chains. Admission is $5.00 at the door.

After the bazaar, there will be a refreshment and social hour, following which a panel of collectors will discuss how they became interested in acquiring ocean liner ephemera and will show examples from their collections.
For the combined bazaar, refreshment hour and panel discussion, the charge is $10.00.

Travel writer Ted Scull, Naval Architect Mark Nemergut will be panelists.

movie star Kevin Spacey will be there

There were many vendors selling artifacts, menus, deck plans, brochures of the classic liners we love. The SS United States Conservancy had a booth too.

By coincidence Christies Auction House in Rockefellar Center had an Ocean Liner artifact Display.

SkyRoom and I walked to there from the Upper East Side, caught up, and reminisced about our times on Rembrandterdam and Queen Mary 2.

The SS United States was the featured ship with many examples in original condition of lounge chairs, tables, Light fixtures, the famed aluminum deck chairs, aluminum chest of drawers, signage, and tableware. There were some original MOD chairs from the QE2’ Columbia dining room on display too.

Panels from the Normandie were on display, a light fixture from the Liberte, many 5’ and longer models of the SS United States, Prinsendam, and the QE1.

John Maxtone Graham was there and we spoke for a few minutes. He looked over my renderings of ship designs.

http://www.christies.com/promos/jun05/1607/overview.asp for a catalog of items.

Later that afternoon the World Ship Society had a panel discussion about collecting and there was a Cunard style afternoon tea with finger sandwiches and scones.

In attendance were from Liners List and CruiseTalk were Desirod, SkyRoom, Ted Scull, Christopher Kyte, Tom Cassidy, Tim Yoder, Cornelia Muller, Mark Nemergut, David Hume, and David Sykes.
Kevin Spacey was there too dressed down

ssus signs

Nice photos.
I am intrigued by the first photo under QE2's Maiden Voyage.

Is that a glass/Lucite sculpture or am I way off course?
Also, where on the ship was it originally?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by mec1:

Not a sculpture - a table lamp from the Columbia restaurant, which was fixed to centre of the table and lit from beneath by a lamp in the table support.

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Not a table lamp, it is a glass ornament(sculpture) from the Columbia restaurant,.

Not seen electric light bulb and cord in the photo.

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Originally posted by mec1:
Ocean Liners, you are wrong. it is a table lamp. There is no flex because the light source was in the table and the lamp fitting which, in the words of the room's designer Dennis Lennon "simulates the glow of candlelight", was held on the table by magnetic clasps and glowed gently at dinner time.

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The tables always covered by tablecloths, therefore the light source was of no practical use.

It did not lit itself.

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Were the Columbia Restaurant's tables bereft of lamps thereafter, as all the passengers pinched them? I don't even like it, as it is, though with a light source below it may well have a lovely effect.

Of course shape and philosophy behind a design are totally deferent stages within the design process. It can happen that the philosophy is great but during the shape process something goes wrong (designer lost track of the philosophy, client changes his mind (or the wife of the client) budget is to low or material and techniques are too expansive, etc) then the shape actually diminishes the philosophy. That said I still think the table object has a nice abstract shape and funny enough it reminds me of a piece of art in a park near my home (which has running water over the shape).

It is more common that similar shapes will be seen in different products (or buildings) but size really matters! (and material as well) A shape is perceived absolutely different when it is “blown up” to a large size (or scaled down) for example: a shoe box 1000 times bigger become an air plane hangar and a sleek sky scraper scaled down becomes a battery. Materials have the same effect as well (visual or tactile)

It's a CD rack

Anyway, whatever it is, I sort of like it.

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Originally posted by NAL:
Ocean Liners.........mec1 is CORRECT! They were
table lights in the Columbia. I remember them
well.........and I liked them a lot.

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NAL, You have to show the photo shown light itself in the dark restaurant or explain how was the electric power supplied?

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I have a QE2 book: 1985 edtition.
The above photo is shown in Page 148.

Can anyone post the photo shown the lights brightly in the dark restaurant?

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Can anyone post the photo shown the lights brightly in the dark restaurant?

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I don’t know how the lighting it self would have been applied, perhaps David could give us his thoughts about that.

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Originally posted by NAL:
Ocean Liners.........mec1 is CORRECT! They were
table lights in the Columbia. I remember them
well.........and I liked them a lot.

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Originally posted by Ernst:
It would be smart to use a transparent table - made of glass - and with a strong light source on could achive a niche effect, maybe without a hole on the table cloth. (tough, one has to be careful not to illuminate the area under the table...)

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