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Topic: Michelangelo/ Raffaello Deck Plan

vikingcrown
First Class Passenger
Member # 3437

posted 05-18-2005 11:50 PM

Could someone please scan me the deck plan for Michelangelo and Raffaello for all three classes by Sunday?

JUST KIDDING!

No, this isn't another scan request. I wanted to share that the Michelangelo and Raffaello deck plans are now online at the following website:

http://www.michelangelo-raffaello.com

Look under maps and enjoy.

[ 05-18-2005: Message edited by: vikingcrown ]

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Linerdan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4719

posted 05-19-2005 04:32 AM

Thanks viikingcrown , there 2 ships that im in the process of learning more about .......Regards Liner dan

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 05-19-2005 08:30 AM

This is a great website! Besides loads of wonderful photos of the ships, the text is very detailed and informative, regarding their design and history.

Thanks for sharing!
Rich

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 05-19-2005 09:04 AM

This is indeed a wonderful site.
Beautiful pictures
if you see these fabulous Italian design 60's interiors, you cannot but weep at what is around now. Glorious. The tulip columns of QE2 are clearly influenced by the pillars in Raffaelo's First Class Restaurant.

There are also some pictures of "the end" (mostly known already) apart from one tarnished small lifeboat with a sixties round mini superstructure in a yard in Iran...

There is also a very interesting picture comparing the twins to a modern costa cruise ship

I couldn'thelp posting it, as it explains a lot.

Johan

[ 05-19-2005: Message edited by: Johan ]

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 05-19-2005 09:56 AM

Great picture Johan! Thanks for posting. The picture fooled me for a sec - I thought it was a new Costa newbuild

!I actually wouldn't mind a COSTA FORTUNA/MAGICA superstructure on a Mike/Raff hull....

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 05-19-2005 08:01 PM

Costa Fortuna looks like a Winnebago by comparison

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 05-19-2005 08:45 PM

Great comparison. It shows why sleek and elegant liners of the past were smaller (in terms of tonnage) than today's mega boxes.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 05-19-2005 08:54 PM

Today there are great pics of Michelangelo's NYC maiden arrival (40 years ago this week) on the World Ship Society-New York site.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 05-20-2005 06:05 AM

Some weeks ago I had a request to render Michelangelo as a Big Red Boat for Premier.
Not to make a point or something but I thought it was interesting to share.

Onno

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Noordam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3811

posted 05-20-2005 05:32 PM

Why didn't Costa ever buy these ships?

I realize that they were expensive to run, and probably almost as hard to bring back to service as the FRANCE/NORWAY... But one of them could have been saved, renovated and made for a highly competitive Costa ship in the early 80s....

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 05-20-2005 05:35 PM

Actually you cane not compare the Michelangelo with today cruise ships. Building an pessenger vessel thene was an art and an act of national importens. Therfore we saw some of the most beautifull liners put into service.

In real the Michelangelo on here term cane not compare witte todays cruise ship in operation point of view. Actually she was not designed with cruising in mind. Therfore the Italian Line liners loose out in cruising to the competition in there times.

There are a view outside cabins. She was an 3 class vessel and it was not possible to intergrate those classes to one cruise class. Here engines where to expensiff to operate due to here split engine room. It would have been a huge task to rebuild here to an cruise liner. here splendith first class interior would have been ruind.

Still the todays designers of cruise ships could have take a lesson in designing passenger vessels by looking to those liners of yesterday.

Greetings Ben.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-20-2005 08:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
...I actually wouldn't mind a COSTA FORTUNA/MAGICA superstructure on a Mike/Raff hull....

I would, as the whole thing would probably capsize immediately.

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TSSATX
First Class Passenger
Member # 5636

posted 05-21-2005 02:21 PM

Hello!!
I think it would have been interesting to see what Costa or Premier would have done to the MIKE and the RALPH. I wonder how they would have refurbished them into cruise ships. I wonder if they would have added that aft lounge like on the EUGENIO,COSTA RIVIERA and MERIDIAN. I think it would have ruined their looks. I bet that forward first class bar would have become a casino. I dont think Costa would have had the funds to convert these to cruise ships with discos,casinos and the modern conveniences of a cruise ship. THey were very thisty too like the LEONARDO DA VINCI.

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