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Topic: NORWAY to leave Bremerhaven within three days

r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 05-18-2005 07:44 AM

Hello everybody,

apologies for opening yet another new thread on the "Norway", but I thought many might not see this posting if attached to one of the various existing threads.

Bremerhaven authorities have confirmed that the "Norway" will leave the German port this week. Two dates have been named: Friday, May 20th, 8 a.m. local time or, as an alternative, Saturday, May 21st, 9 a.m. local time. Her destination has now officially been confirmed as being Singapore (I will believe it once she has arrived there), and according to her bridge, the tow is to be approx. 72 days.

Best,

Raoul

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 05-18-2005 08:51 AM

If the tug is not Fairplay IX, she should be safe.
That tug did the Copa casino(former Ryindam/Maasdam) and an O class sub from Portsmouth.
Pam do you still have the News report about this?
At least they waited for the worst of the weather.
Thanks God, P&O Ferries has special crossings for £1 for the day from Dover and Portsmouth..anyone interested in intercepting and photographying her...
Bon Voyage Madame!

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 05-18-2005 09:30 AM

Thank you Raul, you were right about making this new post. When I come to the Message Board, this is the first place I come to...to see about our lovely big blue lady NORWAY. I do hope she makes it to Singapore and that you and anyone else that posts on the board will also be able to get shots of her leaving........my beautiful lady is leaving......I'm very sad....farewell NORWAY.....please get there safe........

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 05-18-2005 09:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by sslewis:
If the tug is not Fairplay IX, she should be safe.
That tug did the Copa casino(former Ryindam/Maasdam) and an O class sub from Portsmouth.

Louy, the tug towing the NORWAY will be DE DA. Pam mentioned earlier that this tug was the same one that was pulling the CONSTITUTION on that fateful day in the Pacific Ocean...

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 05-18-2005 10:08 AM

DAMBROSI,

I will be leave for Bremerhaven tonight. So while I won't be able to give any further updates until the "Norway" leaves, I will be there to bid her farewell.

Best,

Raoul

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 05-18-2005 10:37 AM

Louy there is all the info you can want on DE DA, provided by Piet, and others in this thread

Raoul have a safe trip, wish her well and look forward to seeing the photos in due course.

Pam

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Karsten
First Class Passenger
Member # 1509

posted 05-18-2005 01:23 PM

Today it was said in a German forum that tugs are ordered for Saturnday, 09.30 o'clock. But also the Friday 08.00 time is mentioned again.

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 05-18-2005 01:38 PM

For Raoul, I'm sorry...I misspelled your name in my first reply in this post. Thank you so much for doing this......it means alot to me and everyone else who loves this lady of Blue....it just breaks my heart to see this....I just hope the NORWAY gets to Singapore safely. I'm not going to be one bit happy if she sinks 'on purpose' because someone did something to make it happen.
NCL would lose me as a passenger that's for sure. I know it may not mean much to them......but it does to me.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 05-18-2005 03:24 PM

Hopefully she will roll over on the way and have a dignified Viking's Funeral. For her to end up like Oriana-abused, horribly altered and eventually scapped in an Asian scrapyard would be far worse IMO. I would hope that her last remaining French Line fixtures will be removed and sold to interested museums and private parties as they will be completely unappreciated in her new role.

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Piet
First Class Passenger
Member # 4838

posted 05-18-2005 04:07 PM

At this moment (May 18, 2005 at 22.00 hours local time) the Chinese tug DE DA (left) is still moored at Waalhaven, Rotterdam (where she arrived late May 15, early May 16, see posts in this thread), in the heart of the older Rotterdam southern harbours, near the famous Holland Amerika Lijn's Wilhelminakade (right):

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Piet
First Class Passenger
Member # 4838

posted 05-19-2005 04:31 PM

One day later exactly (May 19, 22.00 hours local time): nothing changed: DE DA is still moored at Waalhaven, Rotterdam. According to a German forum the tug needs about 16 hours to sail with its 12-13 knots from Rotterdam to Bremerhaven. And Saturday will be the day, again according to Bremerhaven shipping watchers.

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gpcruisedude
First Class Passenger
Member # 3533

posted 05-19-2005 11:52 PM

I'm assuming they will be hugging the coast as much as possible, but what if their is a storm, look at what happened to The Regent Sea. Will just one tug tow her, and are their not a lot of risks to tow her for 72 days especially around Africa! And the size of Norway is that not a major concern for towing her? I dont think it took that long to cross the Atlantic, however I guess it would have been more dangerous for that as their is no land in between! I'm assuming her crew will stay with her to Singapore for safety reasons, and will they be steering the Norway while she is being towed??

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 05-20-2005 05:57 AM

Onno

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Patrick
First Class Passenger
Member # 364

posted 05-20-2005 07:32 AM

Well done Onno !

Stephan Giesen just reported on another board that it's now official that NORWAY will leave Bremerhaven tomorrow at 09:30. He, Raoul and other friends will certainly provide us again with excellent pictures !

Patrick

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 05-20-2005 07:56 AM

Hello again everybody,

sadly I had to leave Bremerhaven to get back home this morning, so I won't be able to be there tomorrow (Saturday), which has now been confirmed as the day the "Norway" will be leaving Bremerhaven.

I am extremely saddened because of this. I would have loved to bid her farewell, but it was obviously not supposed to happen. If she had left this morning, I would have been there.

What a shame...

Best,

Raoul

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 05-20-2005 10:05 AM

For Raoul: (((((((BIG HUGS))))) I know the feeling. Wish I could be there to see her go too. It's going to be very sad not to see her in the Bremerhaven Webcam anymore.
For Onno: ((((((BIG HUGS))))) too, thank you for that wonderful photo of the FRANCE/NORWAY. just an excellent photo.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 05-20-2005 10:24 AM

I wonder when the tow will come down through the Channel--will it be under cover of darkness, or perhaps in daylight, close enough to either England or France for shore watchers to see her? It would be marvelous to happen to be on a ferry crossing near her!

Rich

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 05-20-2005 01:35 PM

Hello everybody,

this just in from Bremerhaven: The NORWAY has been removed from tomorrow's list of planned departures, and the tug "De Da" continues to be berthed in Rotterdam, as per AISlive.

What a drama this is!

Best,

Raoul

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 05-20-2005 01:46 PM

WHAT????????!!!!!! I can't believe it.......something is up......or someone is playing with our emotions here.........NOT A GOOD THING if they're doing that.....hope if anything it's more good news????

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 05-20-2005 05:04 PM

Oh please. This is just getting ridiculous now. Here we all are, getting prepared for what could be the last we'll ever see of her in one piece (unless she DOES actually become a casino) and they do this to us so we have to go through it all again. Are they doing it so everyone like us will get so fed up and stop caring or something?

Oh well. At least we'll see her on that webcam for a bit longer and she's safe.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-20-2005 08:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patsy:
Oh please. This is just getting ridiculous now. Here we all are, getting prepared for what could be the last we'll ever see of her in one piece (unless she DOES actually become a casino) and they do this to us so we have to go through it all again. Are they doing it so everyone like us will get so fed up and stop caring or something?
Oh well. At least we'll see her on that webcam for a bit longer and she's safe.

Who knows, maybe she is becoming a casino - which of course has the theme "French Line" so she will be rebuit to her original condition - and survives as such for a longer time than her France and Norway career together - and all that will happend in front of a high resolution, frequently updated webcam.

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Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 05-20-2005 11:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Hopefully she will roll over on the way and have a dignified Viking's Funeral.

To be a viking's funeral she would have to burn before sinking, would she not? If that were to happen there would probably be instant cries of "Insurance fraud!"

Brian

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Karsten
First Class Passenger
Member # 1509

posted 05-21-2005 08:27 AM

NCL and Public Relation: not a great combination

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 05-21-2005 09:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Who knows, maybe she is becoming a casino - which of course has the theme "French Line" so she will be rebuit to her original condition - and survives as such for a longer time than her France and Norway career together - and all that will happend in front of a high resolution, frequently updated webcam.

We can only hope, Ernst.

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Karsten
First Class Passenger
Member # 1509

posted 05-21-2005 10:37 AM

According to a German forum DE DA has a pilot on board and started her move in Rotterdam port this afternoon. AIS.Live data are now shown: ETA Bremerhaven 22.05.2005, 08.00.

[ 05-21-2005: Message edited by: Karsten ]

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