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Topic: The Final Voyage Of Eugenio C

Italianliners
First Class Passenger
Member # 5446

posted 04-19-2005 01:04 PM

Yes, thats true, maritimematters confirms that Big Red Boat II is already in Gibraltar, in her way to Alang. It's very sad to me, i had much hope that she could be back to service, but im sure that now she isn't.

Than You

ItalinLiners

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-19-2005 01:31 PM

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 04-19-2005 01:35 PM

There is a photo of her taken earlier this week taking on bunkers on another site. She looked a bit rusty but still sleek and modern.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 04-19-2005 02:50 PM

The photo from the Azores is here. So sleek.. a bit of paint and she'd be lovely.

Pam

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 04-19-2005 09:57 PM

Does anyone know how much she was sold for as scrap?

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Cheers

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gpcruisedude
First Class Passenger
Member # 3533

posted 04-20-2005 10:11 PM

I think it was somewhere around 10-11 million!! I dont know how anyone could not have seen her real potential, sure she has steam engines but so do many other ships that do quite fine!!

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 04-20-2005 10:23 PM

Did that cost also include re-tubing her? Anyone have a guess how much it would have cost to have her refurbished and ready to cruise again?

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 04-20-2005 11:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gpcruisedude:
I think it was somewhere around 10-11 million!! I dont know how anyone could not have seen her real potential, sure she has steam engines but so do many other ships that do quite fine!!

If I am correct there is only a handfull of steamships that is still in service. Another factor is the condition of the boilers, generators, turbines, etc. If everything is in good condition, yes a steamship can gut out a few more years of life...if the condition is bad, then nothing much can be done. There are many non steamships that are laid up, and in a business sense, a non steamship more economical than a comparable steamship

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Jepp
First Class Passenger
Member # 5576

posted 04-21-2005 05:49 AM

The following cruising ships are the only in the world fleet that run by steam turbines:

Pacific Sky, built 1984, 240 meters, 46087 grt: in service for P&O, Australia,
Oceanic, built 1965, 238 meters, 38772 grt: in service for Pullmantur, Spain,
The Topaz, built 1956, 195 meters, 25516 grt: in service for Peace Boat, Japan,
Maxim Gorkiy, built 1969, 195 meters, 25022 grt: in service for Phoenixreisen, Germany,
The Emerald, bulit 1958/92, 178 meters, 24851 grt: in service for Thomson cruises, U.K,
Monterey, built 1952/56, 172 meters, 14799 grt: in service for MSC cruises, Italy,
Ausonia, built 1957, 159 meters, 12609 grt: in service for Louis cruise lines, Cyprus.

Any more?
/Jepp

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-21-2005 07:18 AM

The Celebrity Millenium Class and RCCl Radiance of the Seas Class ships.

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cruisemole
First Class Passenger
Member # 2459

posted 04-21-2005 09:30 AM

They are Gas Turbines.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-21-2005 09:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by cruisemole:
They are Gas Turbines.

Not only gas turbines.

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 04-21-2005 01:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Not only gas turbines.

Well, ...yes and no.

In fact, although not false, this affirmation is rather far fetched since the steam turbine on the MILLENNIUM class provides force for a 9MW alternator only compared to the 2X25MW alternators driven by the gas-turbines themselves.

All of this electrical energy is diluted through all the hotel and auxiliary devices and it's quite safe to affirm very few (if any, except on no frequent occasions) of the electricity provided by the steam turbine is used for the propulsion of the ship itself.

For detailed informations about that (if needed), CruiseTalkers can always go to this old post here.

But I guess you know this was a far fetched statement since you used a smily twice.

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RuthPerk
First Class Passenger
Member # 1609

posted 04-21-2005 02:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jepp:

Any more?
/Jepp

Don't forget about my favorite - the SS Badger!

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Beezo
First Class Passenger
Member # 1505

posted 04-21-2005 05:06 PM

Too bad S/S Norway isnt on that list...

Brian

[ 04-21-2005: Message edited by: Beezo ]

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feargus
First Class Passenger
Member # 3982

posted 04-22-2005 02:45 PM

it really is a shame that the BRB II to is off to the beaches. As i have said too many times on these boards she is in good condition and could have many more cruises ahead, alas it seems it is not to be.
The retube of her boiler prior to the scrap run wouldn't have cost that much, it would only have been a partial retube. my bet is a few screen and side wall tubes in a couple of boilers.
In a post above it is asked how much she would need to get cruising again, i would say two million dollars and three weeks or so would be all that is needed to see the first punters on her gangways enjoying a classic.
lets hope the Rotterdam makes it home and the Oceanic stays around a while.

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gpcruisedude
First Class Passenger
Member # 3533

posted 04-22-2005 10:13 PM

yes feargus... You speak from experience and as u served on the BRBII until Premier went under...u would surely know more than anyone else on the board what it would cost to have her cruising again!

Too bad she couldn't have found a buyer...How long before she gets to Alang and how much did she sell to the breakers for??

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Jepp
First Class Passenger
Member # 5576

posted 04-25-2005 06:00 AM

[QUOTE]Don't forget about my favorite - the SS Badger!
QUOTE]
Must be the largest steamer with reciprocating engines in service?
/Jepp

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steeplechase
First Class Passenger
Member # 4056

posted 04-25-2005 07:34 AM

I think there is a bigger one in New Zealand I will try and find out. They let you go into the engine room while underway and watch it runn.

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 04-26-2005 01:05 AM

quote:
feargus wrote:
In a post above it is asked how much she would need to get cruising again, i would say two million dollars and three weeks or so would be all that is needed to see the first punters on her gangways enjoying a classic.

Two million dollars to get her back cruising sounds like peanuts. I just wonder if she still can be snapped up before arriving at Alang. MTC had her listed for sale at $USD15million.

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 04-26-2005 06:34 AM

I hope Dubai grab her!
The building of the new millionaires hartshape Dreamland at sea means a serious logistic and accomodation shortage.
A floating hotel would be perfect! May be two..with ssNorway?
Bythen, the Far East Casino trade will have boosted enough to save those classics!

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