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Topic: Read it and Weep

desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 04-03-2005 05:14 PM

here is the link

http://www.maritimematters.com/mall_alang_pk.html

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 04-03-2005 05:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by desirod7:
here is the link
http://www.maritimematters.com/mall_alang_pk.html

Thanks fore the link David it mak me verry sad.
What a shame that such famous liners are scrapped and left almost nothing behind, thene memory's and story's. Happy that some artwork have been spared. Sad but true we cane not save every ship frome scrapping. But it stays a sad sight the beaches off Alang.

That said i'm still angry on the poor work and living conditions off the man and woman working on Alang beach IT'S A SHAME.

Ben.

[ 04-03-2005: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 04-03-2005 05:32 PM

Thank you for ruining my day.

(it was interesting, tough)

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6263866
First Class Passenger
Member # 5115

posted 04-03-2005 09:00 PM

Thank you for ruining my day. (it was interesting, tough)[B][/B]

They should preserve all the furniture, charis, etc , before devouring the ships. Myabe they could even use it.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 04-03-2005 09:19 PM

Shocking!

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 04-04-2005 12:11 AM

Sad, very sad.

******

Cheers

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bmajor
First Class Passenger
Member # 1754

posted 04-04-2005 01:49 AM

Tis very sad indeed,

But life must move on........

What will we all be saying when we see
Pacific Sky
stranded on Alang Beach

like a beached whale???????

She is being moved up into Asia....

perhaps closer to Alang????????????

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 04-04-2005 10:36 AM

A wise old man once said to me; 'Nothing lasts forever"!

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Hi Seas
First Class Passenger
Member # 5085

posted 04-04-2005 10:44 AM

I have something I'd like to share here. Working along side of myself is an Indian gent who is very well aware of the poverty that exists in India and very aware of Alang. He, himself is a succes story as he builds computer networks from scratch at this company who has offices world wide.

I've spoken to him about the incredible working conditions in Alang. Some workers know of the dangers and some don't. He doesn't say they don't care, but from what he knows they aren't worried about getting cancer ten years from now, or five years from now. What they do know, is they have to eat today and bring home food today. Such a sad, sad way of living. David.. thank you for sharing those pictures. by the way, I have ordered the video from Peter.

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 04-04-2005 11:05 AM

It's a very awful way to make a living......it's awful to see people being treated this way....no matter what.....I saw all of this on the site. It's just pitiful......

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shipcafe
First Class Passenger
Member # 3959

posted 04-04-2005 11:45 AM

Indeed, quite depressing. When I began to see the ships with which I am most familiar, it really began to hit home (i.e. Dolphin IV beached).

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 04-04-2005 12:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bmajor:
Tis very sad indeed,

But life must move on........
What will we all be saying when we see
Pacific Sky
stranded on Alang Beach
like a beached whale???????
She is being moved up into Asia....
perhaps closer to Alang????????????

I still think that at 21 years old, Pacific Sky (ex-Fairsky/Sky Princess) is worth saving. Maybe not by Carnival, but by a smaller operator. Norway is more likely to be heading to Asia where very few people know about her history and are less likely to protest her scrapping. The real sad part about these shocking photos is that when these beautiful older liners are destroyed, no really attractive replacement comes on line. The new boxy ferry-like cruise ships of today cannot hold a candle to their sleek predecessors.

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Noordam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3811

posted 04-04-2005 05:27 PM

The Pacific Sky has several more years of good service ahead of her... She was not built poorly, she just suffers from having Steam Engines... If Fred Olsen is willing to invest in new plants for Black Watch, I would definitely say the Pacific Sky will be upgraded... She is a well built beauty, and has several more years of service ahead of her.....

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arosakulm
First Class Passenger
Member # 5556

posted 04-04-2005 07:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I still think that at 21 years old, Pacific Sky (ex-Fairsky/Sky Princess) is worth saving. Maybe not by Carnival, but by a smaller operator. Norway is more likely to be heading to Asia where very few people know about her history and are less likely to protest her scrapping. The real sad part about these shocking photos is that when these beautiful older liners are destroyed, no really attractive replacement comes on line. The new boxy ferry-like cruise ships of today cannot hold a candle to their sleek predecessors.

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arosakulm
First Class Passenger
Member # 5556

posted 04-04-2005 07:31 PM

It certainly is sad. My parents took me on the Empress of Canada on a crossing in 1963 (Mtl-Liverpool) and I remember those doors leading to the dining room! I also took a picture of her thru the windows of the Queens Room on the QE2 when we were docked across from one another in San Juan in 1981. And now to see this.
I agree that the sleekness of the older ships is gone although the QM2 has some of the classic panache of bygone designs (if she lost one or two of the top layers she would look even better). How about they build a 45000 to 50000 ton version of one of the Seabourne models.

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62france
First Class Passenger
Member # 4038

posted 04-05-2005 09:06 PM

sad, what a way to go, all those beautiful pieces of their former lives should be saved. I never heard of alang, that place they take ship to dismantle them, I hope the norway never goes there

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 04-05-2005 10:02 PM

I attended Peter Knego's slide presentation of these photos on QM1 back in January. He explained that the most of the ships fixtures are recycled right down to the bath fixtures, wood paneling and even carpets. There could be a movie theatre or restaurant in India today with Empress of Canada's paneling, dining room chairs and theatre seats. In Alang, there are huge protected sheds near the scrapyards where merchants come to purchase the ship's many fixtures and furnishings. The ships continue to live in a land far from their original trading routes.

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 04-05-2005 10:19 PM

The LoveBoat Pacific Princess had carpeting, furniture, liquor stock, and paintings of old P&O ships from the much missed Canberra.

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I attended Peter Knego's slide presentation of these photos on QM1 back in January. He explained that the most of the ships fixtures are recycled right down to the bath fixtures, wood paneling and even carpets.

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