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I was wondering on Festivale's Passenger Capacity and number of Seats in the Continental restaurant.
[ 09-21-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
[ 09-19-2004: Message edited by: Keitaro ]
The Continental Reastaurant had a normal capacity of 700 seats.
Brian
Source: 1979-80 deck plan included in Ford's Deck Plan Guide
Carnivale: Full Occupancy 1,350
though International Dining Room: Seats 575 at each sitting.
If Passengers were in Full Capacity, I wondred how to dine in the International Dining Room.
[ 09-20-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
Another Public rooms were located on Promenade deck. she had Smokeroom, Library, Writing room, Orangery, Assembly room, Gymnasium, Goldenroom, swimming pool and Children's Playroom.
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:According to the Same source as Brian posted.Carnivale: Full Occupancy 1,350 though International Dining Room: Seats 575 at each sitting.If Passengers were in Full Capacity, I wondred how to dine in the International Dining Room.[ 09-20-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
On CARNIVALE, her operating capacity was 1150 passengers, even though she had more beds than that, like most ships.
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:After the first year or so, Carnival converted the forward (First Class) dining room, the center and forward portions being converted into cabins, the port side being kept as the officers' dining room and the starboard side kept as staff dining room.I ate many meals in those rooms during my time working on MARDI GRAS!
I ate many meals in those rooms during my time working on MARDI GRAS!
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:Very few ships can actually sail with every single berth filled, simply because there are usually more berths, (counting uppers) than there are seats in the dining rooms or even in the lifeboats. This is why many cruises eventually reach a "Two-passenger restriction" for remaining cabins, especially during the popular Holiday and Summer sailings.On CARNIVALE, her operating capacity was 1150 passengers, even though she had more beds than that, like most ships.
Empress of Britain had the First Class Restaurant and was located on forward/starboard C Deck.However CCL removed from passenger use as like as Mardi Gras.
quote:Originally posted by TCSsa:WHy Didnt Carnival keep the 2 dining rooms in operation on the MARDI GRAS and CARNIVALE? THey could have fed more passengers in less time with 2 dining rooms. I wonder if Carnival didnt want any pretense of class by having 2 dining rooms. Of course even cabins could eat in one and odd # in the other. I mean the FAIRSEA and FAIRWIND had 2 dining rooms. TCS
It's all about revenue--Carnival wanted to add more cabins in the space formerly used by the First Class dining rooms, which were smaller and originally only had one seating anyway. The concern at the time (and still today) is to get as many paying passengers on board as possible.
The remaining, larger dining rooms on each ship had long tables seating 12 or more people, so they really packed them in! If there were any way they could operate with 3 seatings instead of 2, I'm sure that would have been tried!
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:TIt's all about revenue--Carnival wanted to add more cabins in the space formerly used by the First Class dining rooms, which were smaller and originally only had one seating anyway. The concern at the time (and still today) is to get as many paying passengers on board as possible. The remaining, larger dining rooms on each ship had long tables seating 12 or more people, so they really packed them in! If there were any way they could operate with 3 seatings instead of 2, I'm sure that would have been tried!
TIt's all about revenue--Carnival wanted to add more cabins in the space formerly used by the First Class dining rooms, which were smaller and originally only had one seating anyway. The concern at the time (and still today) is to get as many paying passengers on board as possible.
Empress of Canada's Carleton restaurant had tables seating mainly four or six passengers for serving about 850 tourist class passengers in Two sittings. The First class restaurant, Salle Frontenac had tables for 200 passengers in one sitting.though while she was crusing, CP offered only about 650 in one class.When Mardi Gras in full cccupancy(1,240), She had carried many children in 2 Uppers or 1 Upper, therefore CCL might arrange special sitting for children.
Notes; Mardi GrasNormal Cruise Capacity 906(basis 2 to a cabin).Flamingo Dining Room 550 seats.
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:Ocean Monarch(ex-Empress of England) retained the forward dining room as Atlantic Restaurant, while aft dining room retained as Pacific Restaurant.[ 09-20-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
quote:Originally posted by Keitaro: Didn't the OCEAN MONARCH operated as a "liner" rather than a cruise ship? Some other former liners-turned cruise ships have retained their two restaurants...
After one round trip to Australia in 1970, she had converted for cruising at Cammell Laird of Birkenhead.
Shaw Savill operated her European cruises in Summer and South Pacfic Cruises in Winter.
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:Shaw Savill operated European cruises in Summer and South Pacfic Cruises in Winter.
Shaw Savill operated European cruises in Summer and South Pacfic Cruises in Winter.
quote:Originally posted by Keitaro:Then I guess Carnival wanted to generate as much revenue as possible...
Ocean Monarch was added new cabins between Bridge and Funnel on Boat deck.
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:Empress of Canada's Carleton restaurant had tables seating mainly four or six passengers for serving about 850 tourist class passengers in Two sittings. The First class restaurant, Salle Frontenac had tables for 200 passengers in one sitting.though while she was crusing, CP offered only about 650 in one class.When Mardi Gras in full cccupancy(1,240), She had carried many children in 2 Uppers or 1 Upper, therefore CCL might arrange special sitting for children.Notes; Mardi GrasNormal Cruise Capacity 906(basis 2 to a cabin).Flamingo Dining Room 550 seats.[ 09-21-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
Actually MARDI GRAS and CARNIVALE never sailed with more than 1100 passengers--this was due to seating in the dining room as well as Coast Guard regulations--there were not as many seats in the lifeboats as berths in the cabins. This is true of most ships.
I was an Operations Manager for Carnival during the 1980s, and we had to carefully watch passenger loads on each sailing. This is why, even to this day, some cruises reach their "2 pax. restriction", meaning that no more triples or quads can be sold, or else they would have to sail with empty cabins. There is obviously more revenue to be gained by selling 1st & 2nd adult fares, than by adding more 3rd & 4th lower fares.
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:On CARNIVALE, her operating capacity was 1150 passengers, even though she had more beds than that, like most ships.
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:Actually MARDI GRAS and CARNIVALE never sailed with more than 1100 passengers--this was due to seating in the dining room as well as Coast Guard regulations
Actually MARDI GRAS and CARNIVALE never sailed with more than 1100 passengers--this was due to seating in the dining room as well as Coast Guard regulations
International Dining Room: Seats 575 at each sitting
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:--there were not as many seats in the lifeboats as berths in the cabins. This is true of most ships.
--there were not as many seats in the lifeboats as berths in the cabins. This is true of most ships.
Didn't they fitted life rafts for crew?
S.A. VAAL was completely gutted and transformed into the FESTIVALE, at least as far as public rooms go. Nothing of the original decor remained. Many cabins, however, were more or less kept the same; of course Carnival added substantial numbers of cabins in cargo hold areas, to increase capacity.
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