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Topic: What's your perfect ship?

mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 08-05-2004 05:52 PM

We all know that the perfect ship has yet to be designed, but I wondered what would be the ingredients of YOUR perfect ship?

For me the things I want would include a long foredeck and a sweeping bow, a decent balance between hull and superstructure, a terraced stern, at least one quiet swimming pool with no music or entertainment, one small, dark, intimate bar, beautiful art and statues and a promenade deck that encircled the ship without going through a "tunnel" at the bows.

Looking back at my list - which I have only just thought about - the vlosest ships to heaven for me would be Vistafjord, Sagafjord, Canberra and Queen Mary 2.

So what would make your dream ship?

Mike

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 08-05-2004 06:56 PM

Sorry - I forgot to add that an Observation Lounge with a forward view also is an essential for me - but that doesn't change the list of ships that meet my criteria!

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Cambodge
First Class Passenger
Member # 906

posted 08-05-2004 07:49 PM

See the thread immediately below: "France" of 1964 preeminently qualifies:

1. a long foredeck and a sweeping bow,
Just look at any aerial photo of the ship:
2. a decent balance between hull and superstructure
No comment needed!
3. one quiet swimming pool with no music or entertainment
A little lacking here, the interior pool would qualify.
4. , one small, dark, intimate bar,
The "Club Atlantique" eminentaly qualifies here.
5. beautiful art and statues
A matter of taste, I liked what I saw.
6. and a promenade deck that encircled the ship without going through a "tunnel" at the bows.
Without looking at deck plans, I think, this qualifies.

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Britanis
First Class Passenger
Member # 2912

posted 08-05-2004 09:08 PM

For me, the ideal ship already exists- Caronia. It's a shame I'll never be able to sail on her (unless Saga keeps her until 2040). She is the conclusion of more than 100 years of ocean liner design and construction, literally the last of her breed, the last masterpiece of British shipbuilding art.

[ 08-05-2004: Message edited by: Britanis ]

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 08-05-2004 09:09 PM

Hello Mike,

Onno has designed his, and so has Vacarro.
I am working on mine.
Thank you Autodesk and Adobe Systems.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 08-06-2004 12:20 AM

If I had to create one it would have a long foredeck and sleek rounded bow, a rounded cruiser stern (I love Rotterdam V's) as mentioned before, a teak boat/promenade deck that circled the entire deck, a rounded bridge front with windows facing forward (like Caronia), nicely tiered aft lido decks with pools (similar to QE2 original layout), and a funnel place amidship like 50s Italian line ships and it should have a lovely sheer to her bow and stern.

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linerguy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4289

posted 08-06-2004 09:27 AM

Just rebuild a fully air-conditioned Normandie, add a few balconies (not hundreds), another outdoor pool, a lido restaurant and I'm there! The only class distinction would be where you take your meals ... like QM2 & QE2, base it on accommodations.

Russ

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rustaveli
First Class Passenger
Member # 1708

posted 08-06-2004 11:02 AM

Mine!
But onestly I still prefer to see those beautiful old girls like Marco Polo, Maxim, Sagarose, Oceanic, etc etc around for long time!

Larger Version

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Britanis
First Class Passenger
Member # 2912

posted 08-06-2004 03:54 PM

rustaveli, that's amazing! A perfect modern update of the Ivan Franco class. Any chance of interesting Carnival? That's the kind of design Cunard and Holland America SHOULD be sharing IMO.

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 08-06-2004 05:40 PM

Rustaveli she is very pretty - but no promenade and no observation lounge!!!!

Mike

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TCSsa
First Class Passenger
Member # 4841

posted 08-08-2004 10:12 PM

Hey Rustavelli-
Thats a great design.
Have you done a layout of the decks?
Here's mine:
Observation Deck:Sun decks
Sun Deck:Bridge,Suites,Lounge for Suites.Aft is a gym around the funnel.
Lido Deck:Fore Observation Lounge,Cigar bar,More Suites,Lido bar and Pool with 2 Hot tubs,Aft Lido Restaurant,Pizzaria and Coffee bar.
Upper Deck

assenger Cabins,Hairdresser,Aft is a Palm Court Lounge.
A-Deck

assenger Cabins,Massage and Sauna areas.Aft is a nightclub.
B-Deck:More passenger cabins,Gift shops,Aft is another Lounge and Bar area.
Verandah Deck:Fore Main Lounge,Midships is a Club Lounge and bar,Casino(view is obstructed by lifeboats)Aft is another Lounge for dancing.
Promenade Deck

assenger Cabins,Reception Areas,Library,
C-Deck

assenger Cabins,Main Dining Room.
What do you think?

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Cunardcoll
First Class Passenger
Member # 1226

posted 08-09-2004 07:38 AM

The current Cunard fleet Caronia , QE2 and QM2
BUT also HAL ships and I also like Braemar

Jochen

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 08-09-2004 03:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cunardcoll:
The current Cunard fleet Caronia , QE2 and QM2
BUT also HAL ships and I also like Braemar
Jochen

You have listed some nice vessels but they are HARDLY perfect!

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RuthPerk
First Class Passenger
Member # 1609

posted 08-10-2004 08:43 AM

Don't forget the fan-tail!

My favorite ship is still the late SeaBreeze during her Dolphin days. They don't build 'em like that anymore!

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 08-10-2004 12:30 PM

Just read Clive Harvey's "The Last White Empresses" and - although she breaks almost all my rules - I have to say that I think the "Empress of Canada" was a beautfiul looking ship!!!!

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lebelty
First Class Passenger
Member # 3855

posted 08-10-2004 08:40 PM

My perfect ship would be mine

. I have a picture of her, which i will show as soon as i get a scanner.

. Here is some info on her:
765 ft long
96 ft wide
24 ft draft
56,000 grt to 60,000 grt
1270 double pax. (1500 total)
600 crew
$285 million euros each
8 passenger decks
deck 8: observation lounge/cafe and upper spa area, jogging track, library, indain resturant and african resturant and lounge area
deck 7: bridge, spa, hydro pool, main pool (with hot tubs), pool resturant.
deck 6: 3 Penthouse Suites, 10 Suites, veranda cabins and interior cabins as well.
deck 5: 4 Owners Suite, 10 Suites, veranda cabins and interior cabins too.
deck 4: Vista Suites, veranda cabins, (lifeboats), conference center, bar, lounge, lounge #2 w/ resturant, shopping center (upper level)
deck 3: show lounge, casino, movie theater, kids center, 24 hr. cafe, resturant, main resturant (upper level), bar, and lounge
deck 2: show lounge, oceanview cabins, interior cabins, lobby, lounge/bar, main resturant (lower level)
deck 1: ocean view cabins and interior cabins, medical center.

tyler

PS She would also be used in the UK market, being the only 'freestyle'cruise ship(s) in and deticated to Europe/UK.

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62france
First Class Passenger
Member # 4038

posted 08-11-2004 07:00 PM

my perfect ship would be the France of 1961 with normandie interiors, that would be phat. or cool. Scew balcony cabins, this ship would be for year round crossings. Thats just my opinion

2nd Idea would be a ship with the france's exterior design and the interiors would consists of all the famous ocean liners

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bmajor
First Class Passenger
Member # 1754

posted 08-12-2004 02:50 AM

Don't overlook current ships........

A perfect ship for todays needs?

Ship's that offers cruisers
all they want and need .......

Aurora and Amsterdam

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 08-12-2004 05:20 AM

Yes but oriana is much nicer than aurora

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bmajor
First Class Passenger
Member # 1754

posted 08-13-2004 12:29 AM

Both ships are nice and I would gladly cruise on either........
but I still prefer Aurora over Oriana.......

It is just that one step better

covered pool for a start,........
very important for cruising in cold climes,
plus it provides extra seating for the Orangery.
The 24 hour Cafe Boudeaux is excellent.
On Aurora, the chandeliers dont
"shake rattle and roll ",in the Alexandria Restaurant,as they do in the Oriental Restaurant on Oriana

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