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Johan
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posted 07-12-2004 05:58 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am just back from Barcelona where SS Oceanic docked today after a wonderful week on the Western Mediterranean.

I intend to post a full review if you like, and some pictures (if i can manage...)-

The cruise was fantastic, wonderful weather, interesting ports, wonderful ship, 1391 passengers and some 560 crew.

The Spanish was indeed a bit of a problem - together with English we managed to get the message clear. However the passengers were for more than 95% (or even more I guess, I heard two women speak english, and a couple were dutch, and the three of us Belgian...), Iberians...social interaction with the other passengers was very minimal (I bow my head to ernie and Malcolm), but I guess that is the spanish way : I didn't see much other fraternising, but I can be wrong.

There was a lot of smoking aboard, but the A/C was working heavily so it didn't hinder. On one point it was asked through the intercom to abstain from smoking on the open deck and smoke only inside (crew was painting).

The atmoshpere was clearly Latin : lots of noise and a different musical choice, but all in a mostly goodtempered way. Lots of nationalities in the crew, mostly from spanish speaking countries (including the philippines) and latin america like honduras and nicaragua and colombia. T

The service was very friendly and efficient, at least at our table and in our cabin. Our steward was a very friendly man from India, who worked on Oceanic since 8 years, even under Premier, he said Pullmanturs was the european partner of Premier, and that was the reason they took over, when premier went out of business.

The Captain was croatian.

Passenger age was different, but there was a general young public aboard, 20-50's, many young families with children, some in perambulators. Also many newly weds I think, but also some older people. Middle-of-the-road Spain I thought.

I wondered if a "miss drag queen" is normal passenger entertainment onboard cruise ships ? Also gala buffets at 1.45 AM (with was a bit too late for me).

the ship is well maintained, constantly being painted and scrubbed and cleaned, there were some lamps broken on the covered promenade deck, and the next day they were all fixed. The magrodome was just very intensely (often closed on the nights). We liked to sit mostly in the coverd promenade, or the open aft deck, which, by the way, is totally covered by teak, and has some beautiful copper instruments.

The public rooms were changed by Premier, but (I think) the stairways with beautifull metallic wall panels of famous men (on the port side) and women (on the starboard side), and the cabins were original. At least, there was quiet beige formica, and the A/C unit was made in Italy. Also the theater very deep in the bows of the ship seemed to me original, but also the most shabby part of the public rooms - it didn't seem used - I went once down when a film was showing and the whole room including the balcony was empty a strange experience.

I'll try to post a full review later, and also the pictures (I took at least one picture of every public room except the childrens room), but i m not very clever in posting the things...it takes time.

The Oceanic sailed very smoothly. The first half of thye cruise you couldn't even feel she was moinvg. Later there was some wind, and she rolled from one side to the other, but very very slowly. A pleasant sea voyage.

As the ship is a steamship soot was dropping on the aft deck.

I ll try to tell more later, or if you have questions, I ll try to answer them.

J
back in novemberish Antwerp, from the sunny and hot Med


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linerguy
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posted 07-12-2004 06:27 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great comments so far; I can't wait to see the photos.

I sailed on her years ago under Premier when she was still "Disney-fied". I remember how well she sailed and loved her long bow ... just beautiful.

While I've never been fond of her interiors, her exterior is simply lovely.

Russ


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sslewis
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posted 07-13-2004 01:39 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Can't wait for the pictures of my Oceanic beauty!
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Onno
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posted 07-13-2004 02:30 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welcome back from Oceanic Johan.
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Maasdam
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posted 07-13-2004 02:33 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pictures pictures pictures can't wait to see theme.
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tg_lindo
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posted 07-13-2004 04:48 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I too was on Oceanic early in the Disney years, and had just started college. Even then, I thought the interiors were kind of generic and cheap looking. But, since I first laid eyes on the Oceanic from the deck of the Dolpin IV, I was thrilled to be aboard. It was also the last cruise my grandparents took, and the last trip our family took all together, so it holds a place in my heart.

Oh! And who was the captain on the Oceanic at that time? None other than the Greek fellow who had commanded the Dolphin 15 years before !!!


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Johan
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posted 07-13-2004 06:04 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For those interested : I made some albums with pictures, I hope it isn't too much, and that you 'll enjoy them.

Johan

oceanic exteriors

oceanic interiors I

oceanic interiors II

shipboard life and destinations

passenger ships in the mediterranean

[ 07-14-2004: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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Onno
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posted 07-13-2004 06:09 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great pictures!
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feargus
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posted 07-13-2004 06:14 PM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
looks to be in excellent condition. great photos.
does anyone know what pullmantur have planned for her future?

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Johan
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posted 07-14-2004 04:23 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I see her succes, and also dedication,
I think Pullmantur will thry to keep her as long as possible.

I saw some speculation of her being used in Brazil.

Other ships of Pullmantur are chartered (R-6), so they will need the Oceanic to keep their succes.

Besides the seemed to me in a good condition, not tired or shabby


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tg_lindo
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posted 07-14-2004 04:46 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great Photos!

Many of the interiors are virtually unchanged from my Premier cruise in 1986. Some look completely unfamiliar. The covered promenade was completely bare on my cruise. Hot, too, even at night. The metallic stairwell sculptures must be original. I've got a photo of Shakespeare!

The Satellite Cafe buffet area must have had a wall knocked out....you could not see the foreward facing windows from the buffet. Premier had very elaborate midnight buffets! My sister, our ship friends, and I hung out in the room fore of the buffet area...I'm pretty sure it was the Escoffier Room in the Home Lines days.


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tg_lindo
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posted 07-14-2004 04:49 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OH! and!

Premier had (paid) wine tastings in the bar by the casino. They gave (sold) you a little sommelier's tasting cup-thingie (plastic, with chrome-like finish, on a chain). Staff poured a selection of whits and reds for the participants. The cup thingies were great souvenirs.....we still have ours :-)


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linerguy
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posted 07-15-2004 01:03 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
EXCELLENT photos! Thanks for sharing.

I can't believe what great condition Oceanic is in. She looks in better shape than when I sailed on her with Premier.

You lucky sea dog!

Wonderful. Thanks again.

Russ


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sslewis
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posted 07-15-2004 08:12 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excelent!
This is how ships ans cruises should be photographed!
ssOceanic does not look too bad in her livery after all.
Interesting other ships around, especially the Moby Drea.

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TampaMike
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posted 07-15-2004 10:16 AM      Profile for TampaMike   Email TampaMike   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I sailed aboard Oceanic under Home Lines several times in the 70's and early 80's. Then I was fortunate to work aboard her during my tenure with Premier. Oceanic and Rotterdam V are my favorite classics.

The bronze sculptures in the stairwells are original. And it appears that much of the interiors are still from the Premier days. It does look like much of the older darker panelling has been changed to a lighter panelling. Oceanic had two-tone interiors, light and dark panelling. It looks better with the brighter.

Oceanic is a very solid and smooth. Her hull is in extroadinary shape for her age. The A/C on her was always cold, but she had plumbing problems and brown water. I remember the soot too...we called them "Funnel Bombs".

Glad she is being appreciated in her newest life.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 07-15-2004 02:00 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oceanic's lovely profile puts all those other ships to shame. She is still (even with the Pullmantur logo on her hull) one of the best looking liners ever built!
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PamM
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posted 07-15-2004 02:21 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She would look even better without Pullmantur on the side, but excellent photos Johan, she looks great. Love Moby Drea too
Pam

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Cruiser Nutt
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posted 07-15-2004 04:15 PM      Profile for Cruiser Nutt        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My wife worked on the Oceanic in 1978, and I was lucky enough to visit her a couple of times. She was, and is, the epitomy of a true graceful, well designed liner/cruise ship. She will always be the last of the great ships of the type, along with the Canberra and the Rotterdam, not to mention the QE2.
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Brian_O
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posted 07-15-2004 04:59 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry to disagree but I think Oceanic was a much more attractive ship in her Home Lines days. Nicer interiors than now and plenty of TEAK decks. Fortunately noone has wrecked her sleek profile.

Brian


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sslewis
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posted 07-18-2004 09:59 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hope the soot from the engine is not a bad sign of how she is below deck.
I remember being invited in the engine room as a joke during a Captain Cocktail party.
Thrilled at seeing a huge steam plant, I went down fully dressed..and was afraid to ruin the polish once there!
A few years ago, it took a few trials and retrials for Premier to fix ssOceanic in Italy.
I am amazed that the plant still run smoothly after all these years and ownerships..
Time to book!(and practice Spanish)

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feargus
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posted 07-18-2004 06:27 PM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
soot on the deck of a steam ship is normal. on boilers you have soot blowers, every night high pressure steam is used to clean the tubes of the boilers.
the problems premier had with her in italy were due to operator error and not to do with the mechanics of the ship. the boilers were retubed at that refit and upon leaving the yard the low level cut outs were not working, it resulted in the need for another retube.

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Rego007
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posted 07-18-2004 09:44 PM      Profile for Rego007     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks so much for the photos of the Oceanic. She still has that undeniable grace and aura of class about her. I really feel that she is the Sophia Loren of the older ships. Still good-looking after all these years. This is especially true with her hull painted white again. While not quite as nice as her Home Lines livery, I think Pullmatur has done OK with her and got rid of that horrible red paint.

While I like to consider myself well-versed on the Oceanic, there is one question I have yet to find an answer to. Who was her original godmother when launched for the Home Lines in 1965? Some readers on this board seem very familiar with Oceanic, so hopefully an answer will be easy to find. Thanks in advance!

Rego007


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Brian_O
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posted 07-19-2004 01:26 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rego007:
Who was her original godmother when launched for the Home Lines in 1965?

Although I cannot say who christened Oceanic, I can tell you that she was not launched in 1965. Oceanic was launched on January 15, 1963 and was originally intended to make her maiden voyage as a trans-Atlantic liner (Cuxhaven to Montreal) in late 1963. Home Lines' decision late in the summer of 1963 to abandon trans-Atlantic in favour of full time cruising necessitated a considerable upgrading of her facilities and delayed her entry into service until the spring of 1965.

Brian


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Brian,

I stand corrected, as I misspoke myself regarding the Oceanic's launch date. You did, however, answer another question I had regarding why she was launched in 1963 and didn't cross until April of 1965. I guess now I know why. Thanks!

Rego007


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sslewis
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posted 07-23-2004 06:53 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have been chasing ssOceanic via the Webcams, notably Costa!
Almost fortunate in Tunis this wednesday on Costa Fortuna webcam!
In front of another ship, one could see the green water turned brown by another large vessel with small bow/stern thrusters..only ssOceanic could have done this!
Please, let me know if you get lucky!

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