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Topic: Verandahs on Cruise Ships

joe at travelpage
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posted 06-05-2004 09:51 PM

I was inspired by Russ' postings to take a look at some of my old stuff.

While looking at the deck plan from our 1970 return voyage on Grace Line's Santa Paula I noticed that three of the cabins on our deck actually had very large verandahs. These appear to be quite impressive.

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This all got me to thinking, what ship was the first to have actual verandah-type cabins. Did Normandie have them?

Note the groovy couple below on their verandah.

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joe at travelpage
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posted 06-05-2004 09:55 PM

Oh, yeah. Prices for the 14 day round trip from Ft. Lauderdale for one of the outside suites was $1270 per person.

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JOE
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posted 06-05-2004 10:46 PM

The Normandie Did have them on their deluxe suites.

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CGT
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posted 06-06-2004 12:07 AM

NORMANDIE did in fact have verandahs, not only in the suites that overlooked the fantail, but also, there were first class cabins, I'm not sure how many, that had private balconly/outdoor space on the side of the ship. Just a few.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-06-2004 12:50 AM

Normandie had approx. 24 deluxe verandah cabins (not suites) on the promenade deck aft. These very expensive cabins had the same style windows as the promenade deck forward and the large sliding windows could be opened. I believe Saturnia and Vulcania also had verandah cabins below the promenade deck.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-06-2004 01:12 AM

Normandie had Two de luxe appartments with a private terrace, four bedrooms, a living room, servants' quarters and a dining room with serving pantly.

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Vaccaro
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posted 06-06-2004 03:59 AM

The two Grand Luxe appartments mentioned above of NORMANDIE:

The 24 1st Class cabins mentioned above as well:

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-06-2004 04:51 AM

Thanks for the deck plans - Vaccaro.

Two grand luxe appartements called "Deauville" and "Trouville" with broad crescent shaped private deck space and located aft Sun deck directory above Café Grill.

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mec1
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posted 06-10-2004 07:41 PM

Well if your definition of private verandah extends to openable windows, Titanic would qualify wouldn't she?

Mike

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-10-2004 09:32 PM

I think Titanic would qualify. On the North Atlantic in the winter and early spring, most passengers would probably not have had the verandah windows open. The Matson line trio of the early 1930s had lanais which were basically verandahs with large windows that could be opened when the ships were in the warmer seas off Hawaii and the South Pacific.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-10-2004 09:34 PM

SS Independence and Constitution also had private verandah suites forward-on the boat deck which were added during their 1959 refits.

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Cambodge
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posted 06-10-2004 10:08 PM

Nevadaflip: Were not the "lanai suites" on Pres's Cleveland and Wilson verandah suites? And, as I mentioned the MM three sisters had them in 1952.

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CGT
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posted 06-10-2004 10:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
Well if your definition of private verandah extends to openable windows, Titanic would qualify wouldn't she?
Mike

TITANIC did have cabins with private promenade, but merely having a window that opens does not denote a private verandah.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-10-2004 11:03 PM

Here's the lanai's Photo of Two Presidents from my previous Topic here

and President Roosevelt from here

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-11-2004 12:21 AM

Those photos of the American President liners are not true verandas nor are they true lanais. They may have been called a 'veranda' cabin for marketing reasons, but in reality they were not. A true veranda is an area seperated by a partition/bulkhead/french doors etc. from a main room/suite that leads out to a more exposed area or gallery/porch. QM2's are open air verandas, Titanic, Independence, Normandie etc. were glassed in verandas. They are all verandas, except some have walls of glass (that may open) and some are open to the elements as on today's cruise ships.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-11-2004 12:36 AM

Paris of an A-deck deluxe accommodation had a Private Verandah.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-11-2004 12:58 AM

Rex and Conte di Savoia had Verandah Suite

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nevadaflip
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posted 06-11-2004 11:35 AM

Greetings,

As Ocean Liners' pictures and Lasuvidaboy's comments reflect, the APL ships (CLEVELAND/WILSON/ROOSEVELT) did not have true verandas. They had a "separated" sitting room on the bulkhead side and were. along with the suites, the only cabins with windows instead of portholes. I guess that because you could sit there and see outside nicely gave the marketing department license to call them lanaiis or verandas.

They were very nice cabins however.

Jerry
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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-11-2004 07:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nevadaflip:
I guess that because you could sit there and see outside nicely gave the marketing department license to call them lanaiis or verandas.
They were very nice cabins however.

PFEL claimed the lanai suite as photo below, their lanai suite was fitted "see-thru wood ornament" for daylight and view even you were in the bedroom.

That only made a difference between APL and PFEL

from topic here

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