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Willem
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posted 05-26-2004 03:44 PM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Following from the Steamship Rotterdam Foundation:

Next stop: Gibraltar! (26-5-2004)
The end of the three and a half year lay-up period in Freeport is nearing! If all goes as planned, the voyage under tow across the Atlantic will commence
already on the 15th of june. The Barendrecht-based company MCS International Marine Services has been awarded the contract; a tug is already on its way to Freeport.

The destination of this voyage, which will take about three weeks, is the Camell Laird yard at Gibraltar. At least the steel work and the necessary measures regarding asbestos will be carried out there, before the ship will commence her final journey: the one towards her home port! The schedule for this historical event hasn't yet been settled.

In the mean time, preparation work is in progress in Freeport, such as plating in the numerous portholes and securing all loose stock.


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Onno
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posted 05-26-2004 04:19 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Again good news and a step closer to her home port! I hope has a safe towing voyage.

Onno

[ 05-26-2004: Message edited by: Onno ]


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Maasdam
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posted 05-26-2004 05:28 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good news indeed Willem thanks fore your post.

Bon Voyage Rotterdam keep safe.


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anthemius
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posted 05-27-2004 07:55 AM      Profile for anthemius   Author's Homepage   Email anthemius   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great news. How I longed to hear this!

Only sorry that I will not be in the region to have a look at her or shoot a photo of the ship under tow. But should be no problem for Gibraltar residents. Through this narrow strait she must come...

Michael
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Cambodge
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posted 05-27-2004 11:06 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE] In the mean time, preparation work is in progress in Freeport, such as plating in the numerous portholes and securing all loose stock. [QUOTE]

I am curious here. In the pre-balcony days, we traveled in "porthole" cabins on most ships..with the exception of the tropical balconies on the MM fleet. The portholes were fitted with "deadlights", large heavy metal covers which could be placed over the portholes in heavy weather. Sometimes they were hinged, sometimes they were stowed under the lower berths. They were "activated" by the cabin stewards, obviously on command by the bridge, and were affixed with large, no-nonsnse fittings.

As a "vessel of a certain age," I assume Rembrandt has such fittings. Would these be sufficient to protect the portholes, or would welding be required?

[ 05-27-2004: Message edited by: Cambodge ]


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Willem
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posted 05-27-2004 11:11 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:
[QUOTE] In the mean time, preparation work is in progress in Freeport, such as plating in the numerous portholes and securing all loose stock. [QUOTE]


As a "vessel of a certain age," I assume Rembrandt has such fittings. Would these be sufficient to protect the portholes, or would welding be required?

[ 05-27-2004: Message edited by: Cambodge ]



A few weeks ago we had a meeting at RDM and we were told all porthole plating would be welded. This will be done with all portholes up till maindeck.

Regards,

Willem van der Leek


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-27-2004 01:58 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good news about the temporary plates over the lower ports. It looks like they are being very cautious with that wonderful old liner to prevent a possible sinking should she encounter rough seas. I remember my cruises (2) on her in the 70s with my grandmother and later in the late 80s. She was one of the most beautiful ships both inside and out. I can't wait to finally see her again this time in her original HAL 1950s livery. Godspeed Rotterdam!!
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kaiser
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posted 05-27-2004 08:23 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Usually when a liner sinks while under tow, it's a good thing. Better on the ocean floor for all eternity than in someone's razor blade or Toyota.

However, with the prospect of the Rotterdam's preservation in the Netherlands a real possibility (I won't truely believe it until she is at her permanent berth, open to the public), her sinking on route would be a real tragedy.

I've been on her twice and she is stunning, inside and out.

It REALLY bugs me when people will chain themselves to some old building to save it from demolition, but will hardly bat an eye at the demise of a floating masterpiece.

May the seas and winds be calm for a safe passage, Rotterdam.

Regards, Kaiser


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anthemius
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posted 05-28-2004 08:54 AM      Profile for anthemius   Author's Homepage   Email anthemius   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
>>In the pre-balcony days, we traveled in "porthole" cabins on most ships..with the exception of the tropical balconies on the MM fleet.<<

Cambodge,
what were these Tropical Balconies like on the Messageries Maritimes fleet? Were they only on Cambodge and her sisters or also on the Madagascar run (Lesseps, Laborde...) and the Pacific run (Calédonien and Tahitien)? Were there many of these?

Michael
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Cambodge
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posted 05-28-2004 11:43 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
anthemius:

I believe they were on some of the other MM ships, but I am not sure. Give me little time after the US Memorial Day Holiday, and I will attempt to find some photos for you. I believe ships on the South American run had them, Pasteur and others, but I am not sure.

I will post here when I find out.


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DAMBROSI
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posted 05-28-2004 08:15 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm all smiles about this. We sailed on her as REMBRANDT on Jan. 2, 2000. Happy voyage to her and hope she gets to Gibralter safely. Thank you for the good news. Now if only we will get good news on the SS NORWAY.
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Green
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posted 05-31-2004 12:18 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm happy to read this news - we have fond memories of the old Rotterdam - did our first trip to Hawaii on her - remember 'sympatico'? Still think it was one of the best ever.
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sympatico
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posted 05-31-2004 08:44 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, I do Green. One of the best I have ever taken in all my 45 cruises. Thought it was much better than the one we all did on the Statendam 4 years later.
I recently met the Bar Tender from the Lido pool bar who looked after us so well. He is now a Wine Steward. Didn't remember me, but when I showed him Peter's picture, he remembered.

That cruise we, Green & I, celebrated a "big" birthday. Will never forget it.


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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-01-2004 02:16 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
anthemius:

I assume that only Far East run and South American run ships had cabins with balcony or terrace.

Far East run : Cambodge, Laos and Viet-Nam.

*Luxe: Cabine de luxe à 2 lits avec balcon, salle de bains, w-C.

*Grade << B >>:Cabines extérieures à 2 couchettes avec balcon, douche, bains, w-C.

South American run : Charles Tellier, Laennec and Louis Lumière.

*Luxe: Cabines de luxe à 2 lits, salon avec divan-lit, terrasse, vestiaire, bain, w-C.


Below are best available cabins on each ships

Madagascar run : Ferdinard de Lesseps, Jean Laborde, La Bourdonnais and Pierre Loti.

*Luxe: Cabines de luxe à 2 lits avec salle de bain, w-C.,

Pacific run : Calédonien, Tahitien,

*Grade << B >>: Cabines << Studio >> à couchetes avec bain, w-C.,

and Océanien

*Grade << B >>: Cabines à air cndiditionné à 2/3 couchetes avec bain, w-C.

I can't say about Pasteur's cabins because my MM's tariff was isseued on Jan 1966.

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anthemius
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posted 06-06-2004 07:55 AM      Profile for anthemius   Author's Homepage   Email anthemius   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Ocean Liners for you effort!

Seems not a fleetwide feature. While it would be worth to have a balcony with a sliding door in your cabin to get the heat out quickly by night, when you sail the Red Sea on you voyage to Madagascar. Especially when the ships don't have air conditioning.


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Cambodge
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posted 06-06-2004 11:43 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another temporary disadvantage of the MM's "balcon" cabins was that of port security.

Many ships were painted in Hong Kong. Hundreds of painters with long-handled brushes swarmed over both sides of the hull (before there was an Ocean Terminal which would preclude painting on pierside). We were warned to put down the tropical shutters on the outside of our balconices, as easy access to the cabin, and contents thereof, could be established.


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Thomas Whalen
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posted 06-06-2004 05:41 PM      Profile for Thomas Whalen   Author's Homepage   Email Thomas Whalen   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is to become of the S/S Rembrandt.
A floating hotel, or will she make regularly scheduled voyages?

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Maasdam
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posted 06-06-2004 06:13 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas Whalen:
What is to become of the S/S Rembrandt.
A floating hotel, or will she make regularly scheduled voyages?

She will become a hotel, restaurant in here old homeport and birthplace Rotterdam the Netherlands. She's bought by here building yard the Rotterdam Drydock Company Rotterdam the Netherlands. They have the full suport of the city councill of Rotterdam and the people of Rotterdam.

To look fore more information:
Steamship Rotterdam Faundation
This is the URL to the Englisch section of the site.

[ 06-06-2004: Message edited by: Maasdam ]


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-07-2004 02:41 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just visited Steamship Rotterdam site. The photos taken this year of her show just how much wear the Caribbean weather has taken on her exterior. Her interiors look so incredible, all they seem to need is a good cleaning.
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Willem
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posted 06-08-2004 02:21 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Just visited Steamship Rotterdam site. The photos taken this year of her show just how much wear the Caribbean weather has taken on her exterior. Her interiors look so incredible, all they seem to need is a good cleaning.

That indeed has to be done.
Anyway, if the tug is not delayed, the voyage to Europe will start in a week's time. It is scheduled for 15 June !!!

Regards,

Willem van der Leek


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Willem
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posted 06-08-2004 02:26 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:

For more information:
Steamship Rotterdam Foundation



Just for your information: The image shown is an artist impression made by mr. Leon Beesemer, vice-chairman of the Steamship Rotterdam Foundation.

Willem van der Leek


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sslewis
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posted 06-09-2004 11:29 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any pictures of Grande Dame leaving Freeport?
I believe it when I see it.
May she have a safe trip home via Gibraltar.

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desirod7
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posted 06-10-2004 12:25 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Willem,

Will the Lido buffet be converted back to the decor of the Cafe de la Paix?

It was such a graceful room which the Lido is not.


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Willem
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posted 06-10-2004 05:31 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by desirod7:
Willem,

Will the Lido buffet be converted back to the decor of the Cafe de la Paix?

It was such a graceful room which the Lido is not.


The ship will be brought back to her originals as far as possible.


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sslewis
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posted 06-10-2004 06:03 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Willem,
does that mean she definitely wil have her stylish grey hull again?(amazed I preferred her like that despite my black hull addiction!)

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