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Originally posted by Ðraikar:
Not only dose it look to be fake news but a scam...

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Be very Careful!!!

I have been warned about this sight by Reuben Goossens of ssMaritime. Neither Louis Cruise Lines or the scrappers that have purchased her have had any contact with this foundation. I have also been informed that Maritimematter have had no contact with this foundation and did not give it any permission to link to the reputable Maritimematters site. Feel free to verify my warning with him. His e-mail address is "maritimeworld@optusnet.com.au". You can also see similar warnings on ssMaritime.

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There is an organisation called the “World Peace Ambassadors Foundation.” They claim to have obtained Princesa Victoria and renamed her “Ambassador of Peace.” They are clearly fund-raising, using their ship as the attraction. However, I have been told that the owners (breakers) have not sold or chartered the ship to anyone. Beware - send NO money.

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[ 04-22-2004: Message edited by: Ðraikar ]

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Originally posted by Ðraikar:
ssMaritime page talks about this :

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Hello Draikar,

ss Maritime has hinted this week that there may new interest in the Princesa Victoria as a hotel??? They were negotiating with the scrappers that bought her.

I was wondering if you have heard anything about this?

Do you have any more info ???

I have had e-mail correspondence with Mr Reuben Goossens, he seems pleasant and writes back to you.

I do not think he or ssMaritime actually collects any money. He runs a "Save a Classic Liner" campaign. The aim of the campaign is to advertise classic liners with future potential. If someone expresses interest in purchasing, Mr Goossens puts them in touch with applicable ship's broker.

Sadly the current cruise market in not a sentimental one. As you can imagine, ssMaritime has an uphill battle even if the liners they advertise are beautiful.

I would also like to say I like ssMaritime very much. The author, Reuben Goossens, has a genuine love for classic ships. I wish him good luck with his "Save a Classic Liner" campaign. I would love to see the Oceanic and the Carinthia sail on as long as time can possible permit. I would love to go to Holland to see the preserved Rotterdam V too.

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Originally posted by Philip J Fiorenza:
I would love to go to Holland to see the preserved Rotterdam V too.

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She’s not yet in Holland, she’s scheduled to come home somewhere in 2005. I’m sure it will be big news when the exact date of her returning is announced.

Anyways great news if Prinsesa Victoria is also preserved for the future, if the restaurant is a success then the ship is in a comfortable position as well.

Onno

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"Should the purchase go ahead, she is to be relocated to Dubai, where an extensive rebuilding is to take place, restoring her exterior as built in 1936, the Dunnottar Castle. Her interiors will be fitted with a five star hotel and contain a museum featuring her remarkable history."

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Originally posted by Italian:
She has been sold personally by me.And as we speak, she is on her way to be demolished in Alang.

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Originally posted by Aussie1:
"Should the purchase go ahead, she is to be relocated to Dubai, where an extensive rebuilding is to take place, restoring her exterior as built in 1936, the Dunnottar Castle. Her interiors will be fitted with a five star hotel and contain a museum featuring her remarkable history."

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Besides being very costly to change Victoria back to Dunnottar Castle (probably cheaper to build a barge with an exact replica of Dunnottar Castle) it is also crazy. Victoria and her looks is simply a result of her sea going history. Should that be erased and denied? How often restorers of paintings find different layers beneath the final top painting, should they be deleted as well and where do you stop? How many cathedrals have had in their 800 years time span gotten new editions or old features replaced by elements in newer styles like Gothic, Renaissance and Baroque. Does that mean all newer addition should be deleted, how nice looking they are? To the people who altered Dunnottar Castle into Victoria it did not matter, but apparently in today’s society it is a taboo to alter, upgrade or add to old objects and to keep everything genuine (if there even is something like that) Preserving history is a good thing but only if you keep the here and now close in mind.

For me Victoria is even better looking to preserve then Dunnottar Castle (and less costly to preserve her as Victoria), but that is my taste.

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