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PeterUK
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posted 03-03-2004 04:37 PM      Profile for PeterUK   Email PeterUK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The latest edition of The Cunarder the Cunard World Club Magazine has some reference to the May refit. It says "With restyled decor, enhanced safety features, upgraded public spaces including her new look sun deck and 101 fresh touches through out QE2 is poised to usher in a new era of European cruising." There is line drawing of the new look sun deck which seems to have an awning extending aft from the superstructure which carries the name of the ship.

Having recently seen her in Sydney and talked to some passengers who were on part of the world cruise she was said to be somewhat tired inside and certainly her charcoal hull was in need of a complete repaint. The superstructure is marred by patch strengthening round many of the windows.

She was still a magnificent sight from further away.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-03-2004 04:45 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PeterUK:
There is line drawing of the new look sun deck which seems to have an awning extending aft from the superstructure which carries the name of the ship.

Anybody got a scan? Thanks for sharing Peter.

[ 03-03-2004: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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desirod7
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posted 03-03-2004 05:00 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I understand the Sun Deck aft of the funnel will have a mezzanine over 1/2 of it to give about 3500sf more and underneath will be shaded space.

Also important is to fix the air conditioning and improve the signage. It would help if each stairtower was clearly labelled and had a different color scheme so you know where you are in the vertical habitrail.

It would be nice if the promenades on the quarter and upper deck had different color schemes for better orientation.

The SSNorway by contrast one has to try to get lost since the layout is logical and intuitive.


quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Anybody got a scan? Thanks for sharing Peter.

[ 03-03-2004: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]



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Onno
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posted 03-03-2004 05:13 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It would be nice to see the drawing. QE2 seems to be the ever changing lady.
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PamM
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posted 03-03-2004 05:45 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is only a small picture, 2 1/2" x 2" in the mag, but here's a scan It's hard to tell much, but the awning doesn't look like it extends out much beyond 12 - 15ft.

Pam

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Waynaro
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posted 03-03-2004 07:20 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Pam for the scan! It doesn't look bad.
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mec1
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posted 03-04-2004 06:08 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if one of the 101 touches will be the re-opening of the outdoor pool currently buried in the middle of the Lido?

It would also be terrific if they did up the Goldenb Lion and made the promenade area there either a part of the room or a separate Winter Garden promenade instead of what now looks like an airport corridor. Finally, anything to make the Grand Lounge an actual lounge and actually grand would be terrific.

Mike


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Guest
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posted 03-04-2004 08:04 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I approve...

hehe

QE2 changes and adapts to suit her environment and the ever changing world. I summarised this here...

QE2: Change


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Brian_O
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posted 03-04-2004 07:17 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
I wonder if one of the 101 touches will be the re-opening of the outdoor pool currently buried in the middle of the Lido?


I assume you are talking about the former outdoor pool on Quarter Deck. This was a pool with dreadful splash characteristics due to its bad design. Like the One Deck pool it was narrower at one end than the other. Unlike the One Deck pool, the narrow end was the shallow end rather than the deep end and it was this fact that made it such a terrible splasher. On many occasions the Quarter Deck pool had to be emptied while One Deck pool was filled with people.

After the Magrodome was added in the 1983 refit, there were times when water from the pool was splashing off the underside of the dome. After a few incidents in which passengers in formal attire were drenched while gathered in the Club Lido, Cunard adopted the policy of emptying the pool at 6 pm every night.

The Quarter Deck pool should not be "re-opened" unless it is rebuilt....it just wouldn't be worth the effort.

Brian


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 03-04-2004 08:10 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it would be great for Cunard to re-create the Quarter Deck pool and make the Lido an indoor-outdoor space. Since the original pool's supports are most likely still in place a new modern pool could be built. Add S/S "Independence" style observation "wings" on either side on the deck above and you would have a wonderful sunning/swimming and outdoor dining venue without destroying her aft profile as the "Magrodome" did in the past.
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Ðraikar
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posted 03-04-2004 10:21 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
After the refit will QE2's tonnage change significantly ?
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BTF
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posted 03-05-2004 08:50 AM      Profile for BTF        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would not think at all unless they enclose more space. Tonnage on a vessel is a measurement of the enclosed volume of the ship. I suspect that most of the modifications to the QE2 will be within the existing structure.
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vikingcrown
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posted 03-09-2004 07:45 PM      Profile for vikingcrown     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Brian_O, I believe the magradome was added in the 1986 Bremerhaven refit, not in 1983.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 03-09-2004 08:22 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Magrodome was added during the late 1983 refit at Lloyd Werft shipyard. In June of that same year QE2's hull had been repainted in her original dark charcoal grey colour. In late 1986 she again returned to Lloyd Werft to be re-engined. Her original funnel was removed and the new larger one installed. The penthouse cabins were extended aft and all her original lifeboat davits replaced with new ones. Her new maximum speed during trials was over 34 knots after this very costly refit. She was back in service in April, 1987.
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Brian_O
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posted 03-09-2004 11:26 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by vikingcrown:
Brian_O, I believe the magradome was added in the 1986 Bremerhaven refit, not in 1983.

No. It was definitely added in the 1983 refit to complete the Club Lido project that had been started in the July-August 1982 post-Falklands refit. Between the time the Magrodome was added and the 1986-87 Bremehavern refit, I made 9 voyages on QE2 and spent a lot of time under the dome ... just ask the bartenders.

In the 1986-87 Bremerhaven only minor cosmetic changes were made on Quarter Deck. As far as public rooms were concerned that refit concentrated on the Upper Deck and Boat Decks which underwent major changes including lengthening of the aft superstructure. The Signals Deck and Sports Deck (now known as the Sun Deck) also saw the addition of more penthouses between the funnel and the original penthouses.

Brian


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posted 03-10-2004 12:12 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Magrodome was fitted at Bremerhaven in Dec. 1983

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vikingcrown
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posted 03-13-2004 10:33 PM      Profile for vikingcrown     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I stand corrected. On the video "Around the World in 80 Days on the QE2", I thought the cruise was in 1985, and there was definately no magradome. Can someone tell me the correct date of the world cruise on the video?
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Ocean Liners
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posted 03-13-2004 10:53 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Vikingcrown, The QE2 book written by Ronald Warwick wrote about the Magrodorm's fit at Bremerhaven in Dec. 1983

The article described in p.133 - P.135(published in 1985) with some photos.


quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

CAPTAIN RONALD W WARWICK
MASTER DESIGNATE, QUEEN MARY 2


During his association with the QE2 he originated the first authoritative book about the liner which was published in 1985.


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Brian_O
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posted 03-14-2004 12:37 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by vikingcrown:
I stand corrected. On the video "Around the World in 80 Days on the QE2", I thought the cruise was in 1985, and there was definately no magradome. Can someone tell me the correct date of the world cruise on the video?

I have not seen the video so I cannot tell you the exact year. However, since there was no Magradome it had to be 1982 or earlier, if it was a true around the world cruise. In 1983 QE2 did not make an around the world cruise.....instead, she made a circle cruise of the Pacific Ocean (just as she had in 1978).

The 1983 Pacific Circle cruise was featured on a 6-hour BBC TV series hosted by Alan Whicker which was shown in the USA on PBS. On this cruise QE2 had the "pearl" grey hull and the funnel was painted in Cunard colours; it was QE2's only so-called world cruise with the funnel in Cunard colours before the Magradome was added.

Brian

P.S. to Ocean Liners: While the information concerning the timing of the addition of the Magradome is correct in Ron Warwick's book (1985 edition), not all of the dates specified in the book are correct. For example, the incident described on page 102 in which 4 crew members, one of whose names is horribly misspelt (even in the book's index), rescued an elderly passenger who fell overboard in Las Palmas harbour did NOT occur in 1979. I actually brought this point up with co-author Bill Flayhart in July 1985 but I don't know if the correction was made in later editions or even if the incident is described in the later editions.


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quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:

P.S. to Ocean Liners: While the information concerning the timing of the addition of the Magradome is correct in Ron Warwick's book (1985 edition),


Well, I refered not only " QE2 " but also " Atlantic Liners of the Cunard Line " in P.231

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Brian_O
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quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

Well, I refered not only " QE2 " but also " Atlantic Liners of the Cunard Line " in P.231

[ 03-14-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]


I wasn't contradicting you, simply pointing out that there are errors in that particular book, some of which might have been or might not have been corrected in later editions.

Brian

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Brian, When I read your thread, I didn't felt for rcontradicting, I just worte another reference at the same time when I refered to the QE2 book.

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mec1
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posted 03-15-2004 11:33 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Meanwhile does anyone know what is happening in her NEXT refit?
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I believe the limited information we have is detailed at the top of the post...

Still very limited.


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posted 03-22-2004 07:43 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any further news?
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