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Maasdam
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posted 01-14-2004 05:29 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi cruise talkers.

Just have update the Drawings off RRL ships page,
with figures abouth the ships.

Bennies HAL page

Ben.


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PamM
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posted 01-14-2004 05:53 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great Ben, looking good
Pam

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Onno
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posted 01-14-2004 06:39 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dempo has always been one of my favourites (next to willem Ruys of course) nice wood finished bridge. The Maritem Museum in Rotterdam currently has a 3 meter long model of Dempo on display, when Desirod, Cunardcoll and I where there in December we joked a bit that the inlayed superstructure of Dempo would make an excellent spot to install veranda cabins these days.

Best, Onno


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Ðraikar
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posted 01-15-2004 02:25 AM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always liked Rotterdam Lloyd ships, they were so majestic. I did a Willem Ruys as Achille Lauro drawing but a friend took me out and long story short we got drunk and my drawing was "canceled" (disappearing)... My drawing's i did are at

http://members.aol.com/drawmasterx/ships.html

Odd i do not draw anymore but my last drawing was about one year from today in January 12 about Laurentic from a grand old book I had but no more.....

My Laurentic drawing was a boring drawing but i had to finish it with a half inch pencil and even smaller black coloring pencil within a half hour due to the fact i was getting kicked out of my apartment but i will always remember the cold smoking room i did this in because of no heat in early January.

[ 01-15-2004: Message edited by: Ðraikar ]


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Maasdam
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posted 01-15-2004 04:27 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ðraikar:
I always liked Rotterdam Lloyd ships, they were so majestic. I did a Willem Ruys as Achille Lauro drawing but a friend took me out and long story short we got drunk and my drawing was "canceled" (disappearing)... My drawing's i did are at

http://members.aol.com/drawmasterx/ships.html

Odd i do not draw anymore but my last drawing was about one year from today in January 12 about Laurentic from a grand old book I had but no more.....

My Laurentic drawing was a boring drawing but i had to finish it with a half inch pencil and even smaller black coloring pencil within a half hour due to the fact i was getting kicked out of my apartment but i will always remember the cold smoking room i did this in because of no heat in early January.

[ 01-15-2004: Message edited by: Ðraikar ]



Hi Draikar the drawings are verry funny to see. In there own way the are great. Realy liked theme. Have you drawings off a HAL ship.

The RRL ships are not the biggest ships in there days buth among the finest ever built. Insted off the traditional period decoration as custom to atlantic liners they fallowed there own. Specialy the Dempo and here sister Balaroen (1930) where decorated in the latest art movemend. The Balaroen was decorated in the art deco style and the Balaroen was decorated in the Amsterdamse school style.Those who have sail theme and have seen the interiors speak aboat the most beatifful decors ever seen. Sadly both ships sunk in ww2 the dempo sailed fore the alied the Balaroen was with the German navy and was also distroyd.


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Ðraikar
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posted 01-23-2004 01:46 AM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Hi Draikar the drawings are verry funny to see. In there own way the are great. Realy liked theme. Have you drawings off a HAL ship.

Only ship I drawn never sailed as a HAL ship, I only drawn the Statendam that sailed as Justica but I did her in Cunard colors... I would say my drawings are more mechanical drawing then "funny"...

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posted 01-23-2004 02:51 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Draikar - are you to be in NY when the two Queens are together? If so, can you take pics for us?
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Champlain
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posted 01-23-2004 12:58 PM      Profile for Champlain   Author's Homepage   Email Champlain   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Dutch liners DEMPO and BALOERAN are among my favourite liners and I see I am not the only shiplover in this case !
May I use this forum to submit a request, especially to Dutch shiplovers ?
I have missed the book written by Nico GUNS and published in 1999 entitled "DEMPO en BALOERAN : de mooiste schepen van het Oosten", ISBN 90 6881 090 1. This book is now out of print.
Does anybody know a bookshop or a Dutch site where I could fin it, either new or secondhand. If I can find one copy of it, I'll buy it immediately !
Thank you for your help.

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Onno
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posted 01-23-2004 01:28 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Champlain,

You could try contacting the book store at the maritime museum in Rotterdam, here is the site of the book store:scheepvaartboekhandel


I don’t know if they got a copy or if they could get you one. If you really want the book then I guess it is worth trying.

Best, Onno


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posted 01-24-2004 01:21 PM      Profile for Champlain   Author's Homepage   Email Champlain   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Onno !

Thanks for the tip. I sent an e-mail to the Maritime Museum in Rotterdam today. I'll tell you if it works.

Best, Champlain


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Maasdam
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posted 01-25-2004 05:15 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Champlain:
Hi Onno !

Thanks for the tip. I sent an e-mail to the Maritime Museum in Rotterdam today. I'll tell you if it works.

Best, Champlain



Hallo Champlain (very beautifful CGT liner)

Donner bookstore at the Binnenwegplein in Rotterdam.
Doner

Likely as Onno say the museum bookstore will heve it and they will. Yesterday was in Donner and there lay around 10 copy's off the Dempo en Baloeran books.

The book itself is great very detailed and interresting i have a copy. I was surpriced by the beautifful decors off both ships.


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posted 01-25-2004 06:49 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Champlain:
Hi Onno !

Thanks for the tip. I sent an e-mail to the Maritime Museum in Rotterdam today. I'll tell you if it works.

Best, Champlain


In December I was in the Dutch Maritime Museum in Amsterdam and did see a copy of that book in the showcase.

Willem van der Leek


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Champlain
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posted 01-30-2004 10:51 AM      Profile for Champlain   Author's Homepage   Email Champlain   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Onno, Maasdam and Willem H. van der Leek,

Thank you very much for your tips regarding the book on DEMPO and BALOERAN (author : Nico GUNS).
I have contacted all addresses you gave to me :
- the bookstore at the Maritime Museum in Rotterdam can't provide it any more (out of stock) ;
- the Donner bookstore in Rotterdam has plenty of copies of the new book on SIBAJAK (same author) but not of DEMPO and BALOERAN ;
- last but not least, somebody from the the National Library of the Netherlands I could reach from the site of the Dutch Maritime Museum in Amsterdam has learned from the publisher van Soeren (tel : 0031 20 644 64 58) that there will be a reprint of the book in about one and a half year.

So I think I'll wait until 2005 !
Thanks again to you all.
With best regards,

Champlain


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