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Ocean Liners
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posted 08-22-2003 02:12 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are pics from French Line brochure



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moodus2
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posted 08-22-2003 09:31 AM      Profile for moodus2   Email moodus2   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
the 1st class dining room and
club international have not
changed much.
the old outdoor swimming pool
has been covered over and is
now a dance floor for a disco.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 08-22-2003 11:18 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by moodus2:

the old outdoor swimming pool
has been covered over and is
now a dance floor for a disco.

Exactly, outdoor pool has been moved to
Pool Deck(former Promenade Deck in France livery)

Pont Superieur / Upper Deck

Disco


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JOE
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posted 08-23-2003 06:45 AM      Profile for JOE        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What year was the deckplan you scanned.
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tg_lindo
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posted 08-26-2003 04:17 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Additionally, some of the cabins near the original "piscene" tourist class pool have been converted to crew cabins. One of the cruise staff gave me a quick peek and the presence of the vintage oval-mirrored vanity gave away the original use of that cabin.

When the day comes that Norway's fixtures are sold off, I MUST get my hand on one of those vanities!


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Waynaro
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posted 08-26-2003 08:00 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ocean Liners, any chance you can scan a picture of the outdoor pool which is now covered by Dazzels? Thanks.
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Ocean Liners
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posted 08-26-2003 11:03 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

Exactly, outdoor pool has been moved to
Pool Deck(former Promenade Deck in France livery)



I would like to delete following words(exactly, outdoor) and add as follows: Upper Deck Pool has been changed to a disco named A Club called Dazzles


Here is photo of Swimming Pool on Pont Superieur/Upper Deck

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JOE
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posted 08-01-2004 10:58 PM      Profile for JOE        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My opinion on how the France should have been converted into the Norway is that they should've replaced the aft cargo hatch on the tourist class promenade deck with an outdoor pool. They did something on the Bergensfjord of 1956 when it cruised and the cargo hatch was converted to a permanent outdoor pool on the De Grasse of 1971. Basically puting an outdoor pool in the cargo hatch would've saved money beccause it would've been the same shape of the norway pool, but it could've been implemented on the france when it was cruising.
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posted 08-01-2004 11:16 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JOE:
They did something on the Bergensfjord of 1956 when it cruised and the cargo hatch was converted to a permanent outdoor pool on the De Grasse of 1971. Basically puting an outdoor pool in the cargo hatch would've saved money beccause it would've been the same shape of the norway pool, but it could've been implemented on the france when it was cruising.

Bergensfjord' s outdoor swimming pool was located on the Upper Sun deck adjacent to the Bar. while Oslofjord did not.

De Grasse's Upper Sun deck was extended.
At least, Rasa Sayang's outdoor pool was located farther aft than Bergensfjord

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posted 08-01-2004 11:29 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Your first scan, that of Le Chambord dining room fills me with nostalgia.

"Our" table was the one in which the second couple is being seated. On a crossing in the Fall of 1969, we shared it with a Senior Executive from American Express and his lovely wife. It was the scene of fascinating dinner table conversations and food that was to die for.

Now, all gone.


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posted 08-02-2004 02:42 AM      Profile for Andrew Coggins Jr   Email Andrew Coggins Jr   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great pictures from the French Line brochures/deck plans! France was very elegent and her sailings were always exciting. I used to visit her in New York when I was growing up. If I go into Norway's theater and close my eyes and take a deep breath, I'm 16 again! It still smells like the France.
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posted 08-02-2004 03:45 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There were 7 named Lounges on the de Grasse such as Viking room, Garden, Deauville, Yorktown, Saga, Rue de la Paix And Cafe de Paris.
Where were her named of the lounges?

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-03-2004 01:02 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Andrew Coggins Jr:
Great pictures from the French Line brochures/deck plans! France was very elegent and her sailings were always exciting. I used to visit her in New York when I was growing up. If I go into Norway's theater and close my eyes and take a deep breath, I'm 16 again! It still smells like the France.

The elegance of SS France also had to do with her passengers and how they dressed in that era. My parents were on France a few times in the mid/late 60s (I had to stay home as I was an infant). My mother being European always dressed the part for her sea voyages and when she sees how some passengers dress today aboard ship, she cannot believe it. She told me how she fondly remembers the mid 1960s as the 'end of an era' when it came to people dressing well for almost any event on board ship. The models in those French Line brochures are similar to how the passengers actually dressed.


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posted 08-03-2004 08:04 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Same for me when I went to see ssNorway twice in Le Havre.
the first time,I could not belive to see the Patio had been left intact, complete with hte doors and irongates by the windows!
Of course, a pool sat in the middle, and you can walk in a fiberglass tunnel around it and look at the pool bottom though portholes!
It is a pity that the Tourist class pool aft was changed into a Club.
All that was needed was to instal a Magrodome a la Oceanic above, and extend that deck further aft.
Yes, the First class restaurant surprised my mum, as if she was travelling in time.
She enjoyed luunchg there as the the vessel anchored at the Caribbean islands of Les Saintes during the First World Cruise in 1972!
We were not so fortunate in Le Havre, but had lunch in the other restaurant, still with a French-speaking Haitian waiter!

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posted 08-03-2004 10:23 AM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I could not belive to see the Patio had been left intact, complete with hte doors and irongates by the windows!Of course, a pool sat in the middle, and you can walk in a fiberglass tunnel around it and look at the pool bottom though portholes![/B]

I had always assumed that the pool completely replaced the patio - this is interesting to hear - do you (or anyone) have pictures of this? Sadly I never had the chance to sail on Norway - frankly I am glad I didn't as Iw ould have preferred her as France I am sure.


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posted 08-03-2004 10:49 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sslewis:
the first time,I could not belive to see the Patio had been left intact, complete with hte doors and irongates by the windows!
Of course, a pool sat in the middle, and you can walk in a fiberglass tunnel around it and look at the pool bottom though portholes!

Very interesting! Louy or anyone else have a picture of this?

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posted 08-03-2004 11:13 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,
I can confirm this--I sailed on NORWAY numerous times between 1980-2003. There is a walkway around the new pool with portholes on every side looking into the pool. The walkway has oval "hatches" throughout, like on a naval vessel. The original patio doors to each cabin are in place, complete with door knockers (sealed down) as well as grills over the cabin windows. Those cabins, while being now "inside", did have limited light coming through. I have photos of this, but being a brand new member, must figure out how to post them!

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posted 08-03-2004 11:24 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welcome to the board Linerrich!
Believe me, if I can scan, you can, posting is another matter, but I am sure you will!
We all hope so as I must find my pictures too!
Oh, and to add to the atmosphere of ssFrance, as we visited the Norway, my mum and I listen to a tape on a walkman.
It was a home-made compilation of the 60's of course. One of the tune was used in a France3 Video about Le Havre.
This tune, used when showing ssFrance at night was Paul Mauriat version of the score for the movie "Life for life"(Vivre pour vivres, with Yves Montand).
Another view in the video shows ssFrance coming straight at you at speed, from a rising helicopter which then circle the ship....the music was pure Louis XIV's Court(and still played at some French President functions), but not sure of the title...

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posted 08-03-2004 11:28 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A Club called dazzles fitted up with portholes looking into an illuminated swimming pool.

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posted 08-03-2004 04:36 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
to lasuvidaboy,

So true....we have become a nation of slobs, eh? People used to dress up for air travel but anymore planes look like a slumber party in a dorm.

On "other" cruise boards, there is no end of complaining about formal nights and people who seem proud to put their Tshirts back on after dinner.

i.m.h.o......even the tackiest Farcus interior would seem somewhat glamorous if passengers were at least wearing ties and skirts.


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posted 08-03-2004 05:21 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by tg_lindo:
On "other" cruise boards, there is no end of complaining about formal nights and people who seem proud to put their Tshirts back on after dinner.

I read this the other day "We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room."

I just can't understand why the 'No Shorts are not permitted in the main dining rooms at dinner' is not adhered to; it's not too much to ask, is it? I have seen standard of dress enforced & people turned away from the dining room, with a polite 'please change' request, quite a few times over the years, and none of them were even wearing shorts!

Pam


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posted 08-03-2004 05:32 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To quote Philip Wylie: "The trouble with 'the common man' is that he is too goddam common!"

And now, he cruises!!


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posted 08-04-2004 04:23 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
Those cabins, while being now "inside", did have limited light coming through.

Those cabins sold as 6 outside single cabins and 2 outside two bedded cabins around the Patio on board the France.

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posted 08-04-2004 06:14 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I noticed that some of the teeny tiny inside cabins on Norway with only upper/lower bunks are adjacent to some of the highest category, original, outside cabins.

Methinks these were for butlers and servants who traveled with their employers in the days of the France. Does anyone know if that was an intened use for these small cabins?


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Maybe even used as extra closet space for all the new gowns the 1st class passengers purchased in Paris on their annual designer shopping trips!
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