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Originally posted by sslewis:
will never forgive P&O nor Hapag Lloyd for emasculating such a beautiful ship.

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One seasoned traveller and liner nut told me... There are some ships he loves, and some ships he loves bits and pieces of. SEA PRINCESS/VICTORIA, he said, was one of the latter.

Unfortunately her external profile is just terrible, with that awful stump where the dummy funnel used to be, the badly-proportioned, elongated present one, and then the worst of all, the truly horrible aft superstructure. Few things so spectacularly beautiful have been so easily made spectacularly ugly (and from some angles, this ship IS ugly, even if she's still gorgeous from others).

Kungsholm III belong to Norddeutscher Lloyd starting in 1965; she didn't become part of Hapag Lloyd until 1970 and was then bought by Costa in 1981 when she became Columbus C.

As far as structural changes are concerned, neither NDL, Hapag-Lloyd or Costa did anything to the ship. NDL painted her funnels mustard yellow and her hull black, Hapag added their logo, and in 1972, painted her hull white. Costa repainted her funnels "Costa Yellow" and that was it.

Just thought I'd clear that up. Oh, one last thing: I agree with cruiseny,...once P&O took over Kungsholm IV, they pretty much ruined her profile.

Russ

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[ 12-30-2003: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

Promenade deck/Aft Sports room were removed and New Carousel room and Outdoor pool were added .
On Verandah deck, Verandah Lounge, Aft Cooktail Lounge, Aft Smoking Room and Enclosed Promenade deck were removed in behalf of New additional 47 outside cabins and 26 inside cabins were installed.

[ 01-22-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

Kungsholm (3) 1953.

Gripsholm (2) 1957.

Kungsholm (4) 1966.

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Originally posted by Maasdam:
Kungsholm (3) 1953, Gripsholm (2) 1957, Kungsholm (4) 1966 where almost sister ships. They where very simmulair.

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Ben,

Gripsholm had all outside cabins and Public rooms were located on one deck only though Kungsholm had Inside cabins and Public were located two decks and their layout were not identical.

[ 01-21-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

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Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

Ben,

Gripsholm had all outside cabins and Public rooms were located on one deck only though Kungsholm had Inside cabins and Public were located two decks and their layout were not identical.

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You are right Ocean Liners.
I meen there overall outside design was very simmulair. And not so there inner layout.

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Originally posted by NAL:

I was on the last cruise of the Kungsholm ['66] in Aug 1978. She was then owned by Flagship Cruises. It was a Bermuda/Eastern Canada cruise out of NYC for 14 days.

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Kungsholm sold to Flagship Cruises in 1975 and visited to Kagoshima(3/24) and Yokohama(3/26) on her 1976 South Seas the Far East & the Pacific Cruise.

She was sold to P&O in 1978.

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Originally posted by NAL:

the Kungsholm ['53] also had all outside
staterooms. Some of the shapes were odd and
long hallways often led to a single porthole at the end. I don't think NDL did too much to her when they bought her

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Columbus C(ex-Kungsholm of 1953) had all outside cabins as well.

[ 01-21-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

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Originally posted by Cambodge:
That would be the successsor to "my" Kungsholm of 1960, right?

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Yes and No.

You're thinking of the previous Kungsholm* which entered sevice in 1953 (not 1960). She was sold to North German Lloyd in the mid-60's and became Europa, a name she continued to carry following the merger with HAPAG to form HAPAG-LLoyd in 1970. She was sold again in late 1981 and became Costa's Columbus C. In 1984 she hit a sea wall at Cadiz. was holed and sank at her berth. She was later raised and sold for scrap.

This Kungsholm was launched in 1965 and entered service in 1966. She was sold to Flagship Cuises in 1975 and retained the name Kungsholm until she was sold to P&O in 1978 and became Sea Princess.

Brian

SAL sold Kungsholm's two 13-days summer cruises to Bermuda and Canada from New York on Aug 14 and 28, 1975.

Flagship Cruises sold Kungsholm's 14-days Christmas-New Year Cruise from New York on Dec.19, 1975.

Flagship cruises sold Kungsholm's two 14-days summer cruises to Bermuda and Canada from New York on Aug 10 and 24, 1978.

P&O sold Arcadia* to Hong Kong/Sea Princess from Hong Kong cruise out of Sydney on Jan. 29, 1979

Arcadia's final cruise was rescheduled to continue her voyage to Singapore to rendezvous with the Sea Princess, which had been delayed by bad weather affecting her completion.

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Originally posted by Johan:

The interiors look cosy and inviting, plastic deckchairs, and the chairs in the dining room look original scandinavian ?

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Green colored Plastic deckchairs were used in the Sea Princess days and original Dining room chairs were replaced.

[ 05-25-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

Canberra's Pacific Restaurant

Victoria's Coral Dining Room

www.maritimematters.com

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Sea Princess' Upper Deck Stateroom

Sea Princess' Main Deck Stateroom

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