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Originally posted by AKMA:
The QM2 is being referred to as being built as a true "Oceanliner" as opposed to a "Cruiseship". What is the difference?

Is it just the depth of the keel ?

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"Oceanliner/Cruiseship" read "Crossing/Cruise" -

a "Crossing" is days at sea, no land in sight - a world apart - the ship is your home/hotel; you relish and enjoy exploring, the sea air and meeting people, relaxing and doing just what you choose;

a Cruise is a 'floating hotel" with (on many ships these days) land based activities/attractions; it's where you are 'sheltered' from the locals of the (sometimes daily) ports of call, and mingle only with fellow cruisers.

A cruise enables you to return home and impress your friends with how many countries you have visited - but really know nothing about.

It's personal choice - We've done many Crossings and many Cruises - at this stage in the game, we seldom go ashore at Cruise ports. Crossings are getting to be too expensive for our budget.

Your question, built as a true "Oceanliner" as opposed to a "Cruiseship". What is the difference?" I can't answer that - the hull, the draft and all those technical aspects are not my thing.

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Originally posted by gohaze:
OK Akma....putting this question in three places and repeating it isn't going to get you anymore information.
...peter

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Amen. I don't want to be harsh since this is a newcomer, but AKMA, for your information, on many less-friendly boards you'd get these posts deleted for something called SPAM, and no, it isn't tinned meat. I don't think that multiple posting of the same thing is explicitly prohibited here, but it's just bad 'netiquette' or lack of 'forum decorum,' .

Ocean Liner
takes people to point A to B and sometimes C and back to A

Cruise ship
takes people from A and back to A sometimes docking at many many small ports but always going back to A with the passengers

Some cruise ships in 1960's-1970's were real ocean liners taking people all over the pacific and Britain because of relocating but many did cruises and now that's what ships just do today

QM2 is a cruise ship BUT dose the work as what ocean liners did and not many ships do that today, so she is an ocean liner but not in the sense of just going on her to see Britain or USA for a business call and back (we have planes now)

cruiseny did a grate job talking about the inside layout about dinning rooms in another board, think it was many cruise ships have them at the stern since cruise ships travel in com waters and that is also why some ships may have low hulls from looking at the stern, Ocean liner tend to have main dinning rooms mid ship since its the more stable place and the Atlantic is far from com on some days and that's why there hulls are thicker, to standup to the hard pounding waves.

Look at Millennium and compare her to QE2, Norway or even the Queen Mary 1. If you see there layout and sterns then it will give you an idea.

I can tell you that in the "old days" it was common for Ocean Liners to have back hulls, essay to maintain. Cruise ships had White Hulls because they sailed in warmer clement and "attracted less" heat. Green and Pink like colors said to "reflected" heat were used on some Ocean Liners operating warm clements. But colors for ships are not a rule, even more today with air-conditioning.

Cruise Ship = tin foil
Ocean Liner = iron

The one thing you can't tell by looking at a nicely painted hull is the quality/type of steel under the paint. Nor can you tell if it's fatigued or stressed.

So when it comes to actual strength the newer hulls are probably better and I would certainly hope so.

....peter

[ 06-23-2002: Message edited by: gohaze ]

I know that the QE2's superstructure is Aluminium, not steel like the hull. There are several occasions over the years where waves have damaged (dented) the bridge superstructure.

I did not realize that my first post (s?)had gone through as I kept getting error messages when I sent it/them (I can only find 1 other post by the way not 3) anyhow, it was unintentional so you can stop yelling at me.

Of course, the main reason is for added strength in adverse conditions- hopefully not at the expense of stability

[ 06-25-2002: Message edited by: Britanis ]