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quote:Originally posted by BrionP: has the talent, taste or style to begin to do justice to the most anticipated and prestigeous luxury liner to be built in the last half century. I am very interested in hearing what others may think. PLEASE COMMENT
Maybe Jordan Moser, Phillipe Stark [Schrager Hotels] or Mario Buotta. They would do an interesting job.
The Costa Romantica won design awards, I forget the Italian designer's name.
Interior design is space planning, circulation of people through the space, [who likes long buffet lines, and getting lost],integration of life support systems.They need to understand intimately how people live, work, and travel.
They deal with complex design issues. Now add camber, shear, vibration, shock, etc. that a ship brings on.
Interior Designers have to be liscensed in Canada. In the US there is the NCIDQ. www.icidq.org This certifies Interior Designers as professionals.
Check out www.ASID.org
Decoration is a different discipline. Many laymen confuse interior decorators who pick fabrics, colors, window treatments etc. with Interior designers. The superficial decoration is the last part of the interior design process, albiet important.
Dorothy Markwald was a pioneer, she did the SSUS, made it look good w/o wood. She also scientifically determined best colors, and forms that minimize rolling/pithching motions that cause seasickness.
The famed Italian Architect Gio Ponte, did the Andrea Doria.
Hearing interviews of Farcus, his first love is the Golden age of liners. All prominent designers are savvy business people.
The Carnival ships all have themes. It is called 'Entertainment Architecture' ala Planet Hollywood-Hard Rock Cafe.
Purpose here is to take ordinary people and make them feel special, as to be on an elaborate stage set with Fred & Ginger or a line of chorus girls.
From the renederings I have seen of the QM2, it is Transatlantic deco revival.
I am not worried.
Joe at TravelPage.com
Please tell me where you read this as it is completely false information.
I must admit that I have had a few worries about what Carnival would do with their new ship. Yet all that has been released so far seems as has been said to be "Steamship Art Deco" at its most nostalgic.
Even if Joe is not in the main design loop I sure he will have an input. I think this happened with the HAL newbuilds. Overall a good design just a few garish additions two much.
Terry Donegan
quote:Originally posted by italian cruiser:To desirod6:the design of the Costa Romantica was done by the architects Pierluigi Cerri and Ivana Porfiri of Gregotti Associati in Milan with the tecnic contribution of B&B maritime designers.).
Thank you for jogging my memory.
A good professional designer/engineer will specify what is APPROPRIATE for the task and subordinate his ego.It is the 'hack' who imposes his taste, they go out of business fast, they go stale and their look goes out of style.
A Victorian parlor for a gymnasium is as inappropriate as a chrome and neon gymnasium is for an on-board chapel. [Gallileo and the Normandie had beautiful ones]
Farcus is no idiot. Nor is Carnival
Carnival started in 1975ish with 3 old liners and bought HAL and Cunard, 2 centuries old famous companies. Many lines using Carnival as a model have gone under [Premier, Regency, Greek Line, and a few more]
Please forgive me for speading this information if it is indeed false; I just got off of the Costa Atlantica and was horrified by what Joe Farcus had done to her-the mere possibility he may have anything to do with the QM2 had me spinning. I am relieved to hear you say it is not true. Farcus should not be allowed to touch QM2.
Come on folks, as much as most of you don't like CARNIVAL/Costa/HAL/Seabourne/Cunard etc. You know they are here to stay. They are a major player and they seem to know what will keep them that way. If you own something, you can change it. Buy HAL, buy Costa, buy Cunard, buy Seabourne etc or buy controlling interest and if you see something that you feel could be done better in your eyes, change it. You all like your individual lines, then give Carnival their due for probably saving them from bankruptcy. Remember that these ship lines were floundering when revived by Carnival.
I think QM2 will be a great addition for Cunard. By the way, I haven't heard anyone bitching about TV's in the staterooms, up to date mediacal facilities etc.
Foodforthought.
Peter
"From Robert Tillberg's studio in the village of Viken in Southern Sweden, has originated the interior design of more than 60 passenger ships in the last 40 years. At Fort Lauderdale, his son Tomas heads the American branch and with teams based in London and Hong Kong as well, they employ more than 50 designers of 14 different nationalities. In London's fashionable Fitzrovia, Lennart Ekstedt (right) and his talented group of designers are creating a virtual reality simulation of the ship's interior.
Three dimensional computer modelling software and the physical size of the new liner have opened the door to a whole new realm of possibilities. The design will afford a space ratio of 57.25 cubic metres per passenger, that's 50% more than aboard the 100,000 ton Destiny class vessels and 30% more than aboard the 137,000 ton Voyager class liners. This will allow for a variety of public areas on a grand scale and some truly magnificent living spaces.
The intelligent model of the liner includes comprehensive details of construction materials and characteristics, surface areas and volumes; thermal properties; room descriptions; costs; specific product information and finish schedules. After construction is complete, Cunard managers will be able to use the integrated computer model to track inventories and modify spaces"......
Talesonthewww
I have a sneaking suspicion that you are the webmaster of said new website. The site is excellent, but I never saw a reference to Joe Farcus on it anywhere. If so I take it you have now corrected it.Joe Farcus is an extremely talented designer and is very good at passenger flow around a ship. His designs have mellowed lately and I think Carnival Victory has beafutiful interiors. His involvement in the QM2 project was a quick look at the General Arrangement plan and verbal recommendations to some of the flow arrangements between the rooms. He is not involved in the interior design.
Unfortunately, in the abscence of factual information from Cunard, the vessel has generated what may well be unfounded media speculation, most of which is reported verbatim on the site.
Subsequent to the Farcus attribution, site feedback quickly confirmed that the ship's architect, Stephen Payne has stated that Tillberg design are undertaking the role of interior designers.
Enterprise & Art of Amsterdam have also confirmed their interest in the providing works of art for the new liner.
Please do keep us posted here at CruiseTalk of any new developments of this exciting project
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