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Italian Cruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 1684

posted 11-27-2000 04:07 PM

It seems that Louis cruise lines is very interested to buy the Monterey because it would replace the Princessa Marissa.MSC could put it for sale to provide more financial power to buy and refurbish the BRB1 and the Seawind Crown.I think that instead MSC should sell the Raphsody that doesn't integrate well in the fleet with its tiny cabins(it could join the Olympic Countess as Olympic Princess).

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Panos
First Class Passenger
Member # 1022

posted 11-28-2000 10:12 AM

I've heard something about that...However the ship was not Monterey...
We will probably know the answer soon...
Anyway, I think that it is the right time for Louis to build their own brand new ship...

[This message has been edited by Pan (edited 11-28-2000).]

Posts: 443 | From: Cyprus | Registered: Jan 2000 | IP: Logged

Johan C
First Class Passenger
Member # 1201

posted 11-28-2000 02:13 PM

As I already told, I found cruising the Monterey the best value for money. I did like the large cabins ( I had inside maile deck), and the relaxing Italian style. But the finest thing on board this ship is the fact that all staff members seems to be very happy (I sailed on board Vision OTS and nobody of the staff was happy). The food is splendid but the buffet style Café de Paris is too small so you better go to the dining room were most of the waiters come from Sorrento and you can order a good bottle of wine for 10$. But if you are a real American don't sail on this ship: you will find no hamburgers, no 24h dining service, no broadway shows and no noisy casino. All anouncements are made in 5 languages. So please Americans don't sail this ship. But for me and a lot of other people its a perfect thing

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NAL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1102

posted 11-28-2000 03:45 PM

I take exception to your plea for Americans
to stay away from the Monterey. Not all
Americans have hamburgers on a cruise,
require 24h room service, Broadway shows,
and noisy casinos. I will not mention the
thick smoke found on most European cruise
ships nor the careless way many smokers
handle their habit.

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blf49
First Class Passenger
Member # 502

posted 11-28-2000 04:02 PM

NAL...
Touche...on both sides of your remark.

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Johan C
First Class Passenger
Member # 1201

posted 11-28-2000 04:32 PM

To NAL,

Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I now not all Americans are the same. But: I read in more than one revieuw (on this site) "our cruise was ruined by Europeans on board"or " we went crasy because all annoncements were made in 5 languages". And as your are an American not eating hamburgurgers on board, I am im a fervent non smoker as most of the Northern and middle Europeans. You will find most of the smokers in the South (Greece, Turkey and Ex Sovjet states) I can assure you that in Belgium smoking is not permitted in any public building and all restaurants have (or will have) a non smoking section

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Patrick
First Class Passenger
Member # 364

posted 11-29-2000 12:48 PM

On most of the European ships, especially the German ones or those chartered by German operators, you will find, clearly indicated smoking and non-smoking sections. Except for Costa Cruises, I have never had problems to be disturbed by heavy smoke on any of the European ships. On Renaissance ships for example, which have an Italian owner, smoking is not at all allowed.

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nevadaflip
First Class Passenger
Member # 1682

posted 11-30-2000 12:07 AM

In the discussion about Americans and the Monterey it is somewhat ironic as that ship is one of the very few built in the U.S.A. and operated for many years under U.S. flag.

She was a very popular ship traveling from the U.S. West Coast (San Francisco and Los Angeles) via Hawaii to Australia, New Zealand and several South Pacific Islands. She was owned by Oceanic SS Co. (Matson) and later taken over by Pacific Far East Lines. She also had a sister ship called Mariposa. Both were originally built in 1952 as freighters and then converted to passenger ships in 1955 (MONTEREY) and 1956 (MARIPOSA).

She has had several refits and modernizations and I would surely like to see her again. It is good to hear nice things about her current cruising.

Regards,

Jerry

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Cambodge
First Class Passenger
Member # 906

posted 11-30-2000 08:38 AM

I am away from this page for three weeks while (whilst?) on vacation, and suddely find that, somehow, the Monterey has been raised from the dead!

Or is there another Monterey of which I did not know until now?

Clarification, please.

Posts: 2149 | From: St. Michaels MD USA , the town that fooled the British! | Registered: Nov 1999 | IP: Logged

Johan C
First Class Passenger
Member # 1201

posted 11-30-2000 05:01 PM

To Camboge;
The Monterey we are talking about was built as an American Troopship (free state mariner) in 1952. It was converted into a cruiseship in 1957. It served for Matsonlines were it replaced an older ship with the same name. After a lot of lay ups and company bankrupcy it was bought by Italian MSC in the 1990's. You can read the story on this site: just select Mediterenian Shipping Cruises and then Monterey

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Cambodge
First Class Passenger
Member # 906

posted 12-03-2000 05:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Johan C:
To Camboge;
The Monterey we are talking about was built as an American Troopship (free state mariner) in 1952. It was converted into a cruiseship in 1957. It served for Matsonlines were it replaced an older ship with the same name. After a lot of lay ups and company bankrupcy it was bought by Italian MSC in the 1990's. You can read the story on this site: just select Mediterenian Shipping Cruises and then Monterey

I am still confused, although now that I think of it, I seem to remember that the "Pacific Far East Lines," not Matson, had a couple of freighter/passenger ships, for a few years in the early 1970s carrying those names. But is not a "Mariner" a C-4, funnel-aft and such? These were "amidships" funnels, as I recall. Straighten me out please.

[This message has been edited by Cambodge (edited 12-03-2000).]

Posts: 2149 | From: St. Michaels MD USA , the town that fooled the British! | Registered: Nov 1999 | IP: Logged

nevadaflip
First Class Passenger
Member # 1682

posted 12-04-2000 07:57 PM

Hi Cambodge,

Please check out my earlier post in this string. You are right about the commonly known C-4 being an engine room aft ship, but the C-4 Mariner class was a traditional house/engineroom center vessel. This vessel had 4 hatches forward and 2 aft. The original prototype was the SCHUYLER OTIS BLAND and many were built in the 50's and 50's. C-4 is only the first element in the vessel designator system of the US MARAD. The C stands for Cargo and 4 for a vessel 400 to 499 feet long.

Jerry

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