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Patrick
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posted 01-15-2000 12:00 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Eleusis - a harbour town, about 60 km away from Piraeus / Greece, became famous in the cruise industry due to Eleusis Bay. This is the Bay which probably is the largest "parking place" for many great old liners. I´m sure, for many of you it would be a paradise since you can see there plenty ships, waiting to be taken in service again.
Currently laid up there:

TS MARGARITA L. from Santa Marianna Shipping & Trading Corp.
This ship is the former WINDSOR CASTLE (a sistership of the ISLAND BREEZE - soon THE BIG RED BOAT III). It was managed by Bilinder Marine as a floating hotel in Jeddah and has been laid up at Eleusis Bay since the 4th June 1991.
38376 tons

TS MARIANNA 9 from Sapho Shipping & Trading Corp.
Also this ship was managed by Bilinder Marine as a floating hotel, first in Jeddah, then in Kalmata. Since 30th May 1992, the ship is laid up at Eleusis Bay.
This ship is the former PRINCIPE PERFEITO.
19393 tons

TS SEA HARMONY from Peroyianakis Lines.
The former STATENDAM - RHAPSODY - REGENT STAR was arrested in Eleusis at 1st November 1995 due to the bankrupty of Regency Cruises. Sold to its current owners, it is waiting for a new service.
24254 tons

SS AMERIKANIS from Fifth Transoceanic.
Built as the KENYA CASTLE, later cruising as the AMERIKANIS for Chandris Cruises and Costa Cruises, the ship was laid up at Eleusis Bay since 1997 due to the newest ship joining the Chandris fleet, the MERCURY.
18458 tons

MV LA PALMA from Louis Cruise Line
Originally built as FERDINAND DE LESSEPS, the ship cruised under several names such as DELPHI, LA PERLA and LA PALMA. Due to bankrupty of its last owners Intercruise Ltd., the ship first remained at Piraeus port and since the purchase by Louis Cruise Lines in 1999, the ship is laid up at Eleusis Bay. Due to still open bills from its former owners, the ship is not allowed yet to cruise again.
11951 tons

MS CALYPSO from Jewel Cruises Ltd.
Originally the ferry ship CANGURO VERDE, the ship was purchsed by Regency Cruises in 1993 and rebuilt into a cruiseship, renamed REGENT JEWEL. In 1994 renamed CALYPSO and chartered to Transocean Tours. Bankrupty for Regency in 1995 but the ship was kept under the management of the new formed Jewel Cruises which is the former Regency Cruises. Due to a mismanaged subcharter, the ship had to be laid up at Eleusis Bay and did not yet find a new company to charter it.
11162 tons

MS REGENT SKY from Lelakis Lines
Originally planned as the STENA BALTICA ferry, the ship has not been taken over by Stena Line but by Regency Cruises. Plans to finish her as a cruiseship at Avlis Yards, had to be withdrawn due to the Regency bankrupty. The ship, recently taken over by Lelakis Lines, remains since 1995 at Eleusis Bay and is waiting to be finshed soon.

These are only the largest cruisehips I´ve mentioned to be there. Alaso cargo vessels, Ferries and smaller cruiseships remain there.
For the real shiplovers, who´ll be in Athens one day, I recommend to go to this place and have a look.


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Vaccaro
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posted 01-15-2000 01:45 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you for the infos Patrick!
Sure! A place I would like to visit!
A real paradise.
You can visit the MARGARITA L (I love this ship) and the MARIANNA 9 at: http://www.maritimematters.com There are several recent pictures (inside and outside) of these classic ships at Eleusys presented by Peter Knego. A real pleasure!
I hope these superb classic ships will soon be able to sail again, especially if they are in quite good condition. I use to see AMERIKANIS at Ajaccio 5 and 6 years ago during the summer season and it is a so beautiful classic ship! I have heard the price to convert her for SOLAS rules was too expensive. What a pity!...but this is the hard law of business...

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DAMBROSI
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posted 01-19-2000 10:50 AM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you Patrick, it's too bad there is'nt a way to see these ships
via webcam.

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Panos
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posted 01-19-2000 05:50 PM      Profile for Panos     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you for the information!
It's really interesting having information on older ships.
Do you know if "La Palma" is cruising again or when is cruising again?

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geno-r
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posted 01-20-2000 01:20 PM      Profile for geno-r   Email geno-r   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
yes it would be nice to have a wb cam there. Is there any pics. anyplace of this place and the ships there?
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Patrick
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posted 01-20-2000 01:24 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I lately sailed on the FLAMENCO I talked to the captain, Costas Christoforidis. He was the master of LA PALMA before he got to Festival and he told me that the LA PALMA needs an extensive refurbishment due to a long lay-up at Piraeus harbour which caused her much rusting and bad conditions to the machinery.
Until her former oweners Intercruise Ltd. will not have paied the open bills and harbour taxes, the greek port-ministry won´t give the ship free for Louis Lines to sail again.
I can´t tell you how long it will take until these problems will be solved.

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AJL
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posted 06-12-2000 12:29 PM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm going there 07-07-2000, that's in 25 days! I was just wondering that how wide is the area where these ships are located? I have bought a map, and I can't get 60 km from Pireus to the city of Eleusis, it's only about 15 km, if I understand correctly.
That is, if the ship-area is very near of the city itself.

Regards
AJL


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Patrick
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posted 06-12-2000 01:59 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fact is that some of the liners are just docked quite far outside so it will be difficult to see them from only one point. The best thing you can do is renting a little boat to go around but it´s not an easy matter.
I recently got confirmed, that the OCEAN EXPLORER I has ben laid up there too. As well the SEA HARMONY, which was only a short time in service between Cyprus, Israel and Egypt, has been brought back there too. The rentability of the ship on this run was not at all good.
The 60 km indication actually I meant for the whole area you can see interesting ships and boats.
Hope you can go there !

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AJL
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posted 06-13-2000 08:13 AM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Patrick!

In every case; I'll give it a try.

AJL


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Rex
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posted 06-14-2000 09:10 AM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which ships stand the greatest chance of restoration. I hear the WINDSOR CASTLE is in excellent conidition, the AMERIKANIS and LA PALMA less so. Can you tell?
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Patrick
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posted 06-14-2000 01:09 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The MARGARITA L (ex WINDSOR CASTLE is really in quite good condition from what you can see of the outside hull. The AMERIKANIS is not too bad either, is simular to the BRITANIS, docked in Tampa.
The LA PALMA should almost be difficult to recognize as a former white cruiseship. Already when she was docked in Piraeus fro more than a year, she was rusting everywhere.
Now I´m sure it´s worse. Her former captain told me she´s totally unuseable right now, like an old cargoship.
And until things between her former owners Intercruise Ltd. and the Greek authorities are not yet cleared up, Louis Lines can´t take over the ship and probably have given it up by now.

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AJL
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posted 06-14-2000 06:14 PM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And I think that there is a ship called MARIANNA VI as well. She used to be the AUREOL for Elder Dempster Lines Ltd, Liverpool. She was built in 1951.

And this is the main point: she has been there since December 1989! So she propably isn't in the best possible condition!

AJL


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ctf
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posted 06-14-2000 08:22 PM      Profile for ctf   Email ctf   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's great information, thanks Patrick!

The bay of Eleusis has seen through time some great names of ships adorning it. Among them was the famous America of the United States Lines. Having being bought by the Greek-owned Chandris Lines in 1964 and used for the immigrant trade to Australia, as Australis, and later renamed Italis, she was laid up here since 1979 and stayed till the first years of the nineteens. Meanwhile she changed name at least twice (Noga in 1980, Alferdoss in 1984). I have heard that it was cut in two and sank in the Atlantic,outside North Africa, while transported to become a floating hotel or casino.
Another famous ocean liner that spent some time laid up here was the Bremen (V), the last flagship of the North German Lloyd. This also was sold to Chandris Lines in 1971 and became the cruise ship Regina Magna. But the rising in oil prices in 1973 made this old, heavy ship uneconomical and thus in 1974 was laid up here for three years, before being sold as an accomodation ship in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
And last, a lovely American-built liner, the Malolo, later Matsonia, of the Matson Lines. Sold to Greek-owned Home Lines in 1948, renamed Atlantic and later Queen Frederica, a much beloved ship in the Piraeus - New York route, ended her days here, laid up between 1972 to 1978.
The bay of Eleusis has wittnessed the fiery end of two, at least, famous liners: The De Grass (II) of the French Line, as Rasa Sayang, in 1980; and the famous Flandre, of the same line, as Pallas Athena, having caught fire in the port of Piraeus in 1994, was towed here.
And I'm sure others can remember many more famous or less famous ocean liners that found hospitality here...



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Rex
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posted 06-15-2000 12:32 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The 400 foot bow section of the America is aground still, off the Canary Islands if I am not mistaken.
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Patrick
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posted 06-15-2000 01:15 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You are totally right. If you go to Fuerteventura, you can see the poor rests of this ship with the name AMERICAN STAR, on the beach. It´s already a tourist attraction.
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