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Joe at PwC
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posted 01-11-2000 10:17 AM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone see the film on the Britannic disaster on the Fox Family Channel Sunday night?

Reasonably well-done albeit not as convincingly real as "Titanic" (TV-based budget constraints, no doubt), although I wonder if there is any truth to the premise. The film makes it appear as though the ship sank as the result of an explosion in the engine room which blew a hole in the side of her hull. All stories I've ever read were that she had hit a mine. Any thoughts??


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Barryboat
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posted 01-11-2000 11:10 AM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, she hit a mine - that was Ballard's conclusion too. No I haven't seen the movie yet but I had someone tape it for me. I may see it tonight. Did anyone see the movie, "Legend of 1900"? That was a fun movie about life aboard an ocean liner in the early 1900's.
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Joe at PwC
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posted 01-11-2000 11:46 AM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is that in the theaters or out on video? Generally, I stay away from theaters now since movies are so expensive (unless it's a big-screen extravaganza like the "Star Wars" movies, or even "Titanic") and wait until they're out on video. I think $9 a pop is a little ridiculous.
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Patrick
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posted 01-11-2000 01:22 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While we are talking about films: There will be a new version of the original movie "Juggernaut" which was made onboard MAXIM GORKIY in 1974. The ship was renamed into BRITANNIC especially for this movie. They did very cleverly use the red Soviet star on the ship´s bow as the logo of the invented Sovereign Lines, by painting it blue and putting a crown into it.
Well, the new version, produced in 1999 in the States, was produced again onboard MAXIM GORKIY, featuring scenes from the original movie but putting in some more, recent action. Anyway, I´m sure this new movie, called "Final Voyage", won´t beat the original version with Omar Sharif since this was a real good film. MAXIM GORKIY by the way was renamed CLAREDON for this film.
For all of you who speak German and recieve Luxembourgish channel RTL, the film will come on Sunday 16th January at 20.15.
Enjoy !

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DAMBROSI
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posted 01-11-2000 06:49 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Say PATRICK,
I RECALL A MOVIE CALLED 'THE LAST VOYAGE', with Robert Stack, Dorothy
Malone and George Sanders. Andrew and Virginia Stone used the former
S/S ILE DE FRANCE and it was renamed the CLAREDON as well. I think the movie came out in 1960, it also starred Woody Strode and a cute little red haired girl.

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geno-r
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posted 01-11-2000 07:23 PM      Profile for geno-r   Email geno-r   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anybody know what ship they used in the Poseidan Adventure? Guess the stabilizers weren't working that day?
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Barryboat
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posted 01-12-2000 12:39 AM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes the ship used for the Poseidon Adventure was the Queen Mary - They shot footage on deck in Long Beach and maybe some interiors, but a 50 foot metal model the Queen Mary was built and named Poseidon. I saw the model and took pictures of it as it sits in the Maritime Museum in San Pedro, California, not far from where the cruise ship terminals are.
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Patrick
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posted 01-12-2000 01:11 PM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dambrosi,
This must be a different film. In the one I´ve mentioned, the actors are Jim Wynorski, Dylan Walsh, Erika Eleniak, Ice-T, J. Koyama... and others.
But it´s very interesting that there has already been another film, which was even called the same and the ship featured the same name too.

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Barryboat
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posted 01-12-2000 11:53 PM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I've watched part of that Britanic movie - It's not bad graphically, the ship is acurate - so far, but I'm not so sure about the acuracy of the story. They had a nice scene of Titanic sinking. It's mostly digital recreation but they did a nice job.
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Joe at PwC
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posted 01-13-2000 09:58 AM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only issue I took with the Titanic scene was that it did not show the breakup of the ship, which according to current theory, occurred prior to the stern slipping below the surface. They made it look like the ship went down in one piece. But other than that, it was an interesting addition to the movie. And there is actually some truth to the nature of that scene (it being in a dream), because apparently, a stewardess who was serving on the Britannic and survived had also been serving on board the Titanic when she went down. Granted the person in the Britannic movie was a government agent.......

I can get the particulars if anyone is interested.


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Barryboat
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posted 01-13-2000 01:04 PM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if that sinking scene was the unused footage from "Raise the Titanic"? That sinking scene looked a little different than the Britannic sinking which was all digital. The Titanic sinking almost looked like a model. Historians seem to believe the Britannic hit a mine, because no one seemed to have seen a torpedo trail. When Ballard went to investigate they tried to find a mine "anchor" in the debri field but were unsuccessful. There must have been one huge explosion to blow a big enough hole in Britannic to make her sink so fast. I find the story of a spy unlikely.
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Will
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posted 01-13-2000 03:48 PM      Profile for Will   Email Will   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Didn't the Britannic sink so fast because all of her port holes were open, which was against war time regulations??

[This message has been edited by Will (edited 01-13-2000).]


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gizmo
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posted 01-13-2000 05:30 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe at PwC,

Can you get more info? I think your posting was very interesting and would like to know more.


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Joe at PwC
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posted 01-16-2000 10:53 PM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With pleasure, gizmo.

RMS Britannic, or more properly, HMHS Britannic was launched in 1914. She never saw a single day of service as the White Star liner she was to become, because World War I broke out in August of 1914. This event delayed her completion until 1915, for in November of that year, the British Admiralty ordered that she be put to use as a hospital ship. Because of this, she was little known to the world at large, but her loss accelerated the decline of the White Star Line, which now, instead of having three superliners with which to do battle against both Cunard and the German lines, was reduced to having only one giant express liner, the Olympic.

The circumstances surrounding her loss are as follows, according to John Maxtone-Graham: In November of 1916, she had collided with a mine while in the Aegean. She had gone down in half the time that it took the Titanic before her to sink. There does not appear to be any mention of open portholes accelerating her descent below the waves, however, there is mention that a number of the crew swore that they had been torpedoed.

She went down well in sight of land, as I have pictures of a recent expedition to the wreck site, and there is a land form in the background. This is unlike the movie, which seems to put forth that she went down in the middle of nowhere much as her sister had before her. But the movie does point out that some of the lifeboats had been cut to pieces by the propellers which had been steadily rising above the surface, as her engines were still in operation. This made for some rather grisly deaths. In all fairness, one needs to keep in mind that Hollywood, by design, must fictionalize certain details for its own convenience. It's unfortunate, but that's life.

The wreck was discovered in the mid '70's by the legendary Jacques Cousteau (a childhood idol of mine, as I had long considered the thought of becoming an oceanographer and following in his footsteps); may he rest in peace.

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DAMBROSI
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posted 01-17-2000 10:50 AM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, there was a movie called "The
Last Voyage", it was made in
1959/60. It was very good. However,
I thought
the RMS BRITTANIC did'nt have a
paying passenger in it's short
career. I saw part of the movie and
even though the liner in the film
looked rather impressive. I found
the story of the agent rather
useless.

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Joe at PwC
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posted 01-17-2000 12:16 PM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Considering that she never saw a single day of service as a White Star liner, I would agree that she never had a paying passenger on board.
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posted 01-17-2000 12:21 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe at PwC,

Thanks , I enjoyed your post.

gizmo


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