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Topic: Qeen Mary Puzzel?

Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-22-1999 02:22 PM

Why does the fantastic 'Queen Mary' (at long beach) have a modern style radar on top of its bridge, that still rotates?

Posts: 19210 | From: Essex (Just Outside London) | Registered: A Long Time Ago!

Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 07-22-1999 04:13 PM

Maybe to search and search again Barryboat since he left California for Minnesota!

Thank you for allowing me this stupid joke.

Or maybe it's just to make QUEEN MARY exterior more alive and create some vitality?
Bye.

Posts: 1193 | From: France ...where the greatest liners ever are born, ...by far! | Registered: Feb 99

Barryboat
First Class Passenger
Member # 33

posted 07-22-1999 11:05 PM

The Queen Mary had a modern radar system when she arrived in Long Beach. If you look at pictures of Queen Mary arriving in Long Beach for the first time you will see the little radar mast above the bridge. It just spins now for looks, but is not hooked up to any radar. Did you know that the lifeboats on the Queen Mary in Long Beach are not the original lifeboats?? Dummy mock-ups were created for asthetics. She would look silly with no lifeboats. The original ones were still good boats, and I guess were sold and used on other boats. The three Stacks are also dummy recreations - the originals fell apart when they were removed. I do know that the big search lights above the Bridge still work, because at night, I use to go up there and point them into downtown Long Beach for fun.

That was a funny joke you made, Vaccaro - I laughed.

Posts: 1851 | From: Bloomington, Minnesota (Home to the Mall of America) | Registered: Mar 99

mikew
First Class Passenger
Member # 707

posted 07-28-1999 04:09 PM

Barryboat,

Are you sure the Queen Mary's lifeboats are not the originals? The last few times I visited I checked them out and they looked original, right down to the rust! On my last visit the staff were actually removing rotten portions of the bottoms of the boats and repairing them. The Exhibits Director told me on my last visit (July '98) that Disney had planned to replace the boats with fibreglass replicas as the originals were so rotton but this came to nothing. Three of the original boats are now gone and the davits are empty but the others are still in place and welded in to the davits.

Posts: 14 | From: Auckland, New Zealand | Registered: Jul 99

DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 07-28-1999 09:49 PM

here's another goody for you all.
did you know the book THE POSEIDON
ADVENTURE, written by paul gallico
was based on a near fatal event that almost happened on the QUEEN MARY>.
during the war, off the azores,
gallico and troops were on the liner. it was in a huge storm, being stuck in general quarters you do not go out on deck.
the ship nearly turned turtle as
a rogue wave came over it's port
bow. only i do'nt think it was as
high suggested in the movie of
ninety ft. but the incident scared
him enough that he could'nt write
or discuss it for some 40 years.
and that's all we know. anyone else?

Posts: 2554 | From: Florida, USA, Where the Legend SS NORWAY sailed from. Moving back to FL next yr. | Registered: May 99

Barryboat
First Class Passenger
Member # 33

posted 07-28-1999 11:27 PM

Mikew, You know something....you're right most of the boats are the originals, however they were gutted, refurbished, and then repositioned. Some of them are in pretty bad shape. And I believe there are a couple of replica fiber glass boats already installed. When Disney was running the Queen Mary, they made many changes to "Disneyize" the ship, and they did make a couple of fiber glass boats. Disney also did something aweful, they changed the color of the stacks from Cunard Orange, to more of a Red color. I think Queen Mary now has her Cunard Orange stacks back again. I don't know why I thought all of her boats were dummies???

I'm terribly embarrassed, because I have spent so much time aboard the Queen Mary, studying every inch of her.

Posts: 1851 | From: Bloomington, Minnesota (Home to the Mall of America) | Registered: Mar 99

Joe at PwC
First Class Passenger
Member # 225

posted 07-29-1999 10:14 AM

I never realized that Disney had control of her at one time, although I suspect that if I'd spent a bit more time at www.queenmary.org, I would have found this out. It seems to me that she probably would have been in better hands had Disney held onto her, as her current management seems to have the audacity to suggest towing her around the world on a "grand tour," beginning in Japan!

Clearly a person who hasn't a clue (or really doesn't care) as to the now delicate nature of her seaworthiness. See www.queenmary.org for details. It's a shocking and saddening story, including an attempt by management to sue the Queen Mary Foundation(!) over the matter.

Posts: 385 | Registered: A Long Time Ago!

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