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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 09-15-2010 01:47 AM

Corrado Antonini (Chairman of Fincanieri) said yesterday they are pleased to be building the new 141,000 grt ships for Princess as they would hopefully (probably?) lead to new orders from other Carnival lines based on its design, ie : the new clone to replace Vista.

Let the inevitable moaning commence.

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buddhaJoe
First Class Passenger
Member # 4356

posted 09-15-2010 05:02 AM

hi there,

moaning?????

i think Carnival Corp runs a pretty decent business
and has stimulated millions of people and money
into cruising
(how many ships they have ordered since the last
2 decades?)

may-be some people should accept that
Carnival Corp is ONE company with different BRANDS

why design a ship just for one brand, that would be
(business like) utterly stupid...

no no moaning from here, i think very well done

best regards,
b. Joe

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 09-15-2010 11:15 AM

This was to be expected, and as for moaning ... what is left to say? It think it's all been said before. No need to get into how successful this strategy is for Carnival or how disappointing it is to ship lovers that prefer unique ships and variety.

Ernie

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Fairsky
First Class Passenger
Member # 781

posted 09-15-2010 03:48 PM

No surprise here. The only reason CCL kept building the Grand-class and Destiny-class clones was because they inherited the Grand-class design from Princess/P&O. Now that the two companies have been merged for years, any new 100,000+ design was certain to be used for other brands as well.

Here's the only image on the web of the new ship. Now, someone with Photoshop can simply paste a Costa, HAL, Carnival, or Cunard funnel on and you'll see the future of CCL for the next 20 years.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 09-15-2010 05:25 PM

I'm very pleased at this news.

I was getting bored disliking the 'Vista Class' clones now I Will have a new clone which I may equally grow to dislike?

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 09-18-2010 02:07 AM

I imagine in 15-20 years when this new class of ship dominates the market and all the Fantasy-class have been retired to P&O Australia or Pullmatur, most of us won't be around to complain about it anyway?

And in the time it takes to build another 10 of these across the Carnival Corp fleet, how many other classes of ships will be retired? Will we see the Statendam-class, Spirit-class, Sun-class, and Grandeur-class all go away?

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Sutho
First Class Passenger
Member # 6234

posted 09-18-2010 09:43 PM

I would need more information about it such as length, width, passenger capacity etc before making up my mind about it.

I liked the original Grand class with Princess, I hated the Grand class with the extra deck, I liked the Vista class.

So far I have been pretty pleased with the ships I have been on and there are plenty of ships out there I will want to go on.

If the ship goes in the direction like crammed in passengers similar to the extra deck on the Grand class then I just might have to rethink which cruise line to go with in the future.

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Christophe D
First Class Passenger
Member # 1680

posted 09-20-2010 12:53 PM

I 've heard that Costa would like order a new ship for delivering in 2013. But Costa has no decide about tonnage : 92 000 tons as Costa Luminosa or a 140 000 tons as, perhaps, the news Princess ships.

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