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Steve Sparks and his three boys were removed from a cruise ship and they're not happy.
The cruise ship that they were on, Carnival Conquest, was scheduled to travel to Jamaica, Grand Cayman and Cozumel, Mexico. But on the way to the first stop, a crew member became sick. The medical problem caused the ship to skip Jamaica. The cruise line gave each passengers $25.
But for Sparks that wasn't enough and he started a petition onboard. The captain of the ship met with Sparks and according to Sparks told him to get off the ship. Sparks says several crew members were accusing him of various things. A Carnival statement says that Sparks "was being verbally abusive and belligerent to the vessel's staff."
Sparks and his sons were removed from the ship at Cozumel and were sent back to the U.S. Carnival paid for the airline tickets back, but Sparks thinks he's entitled to more. And he's considering legal action.
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Apparently there was another disturbance on the Freedom recently.
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Hoping this won't turn in to a Carnival passenger bashing thread. I've seen just as bad on other lines.
[ 04-08-2008: Message edited by: nathan ]
Enough said. Anybody that organizes a petition while onboard to make demands or to specify compensation that they think is appropriate, and rounded up 500+ signatures in a day, is stirring up trouble for the staff and crew. They deserved what they got. They should have waited until they got back to port and wrote a complaint letter to Carnival. What did he think he was going to accomplish while onboard? An open bar? $250pp shipboard credit? Seriously...
I think people forget that a cruise ship is not a democracy.
quote:Originally posted by Cunard Fan:They should just throw them over board in the middel of the ocean at night time and act like nothing ever happened.
I have it all planned. The crew could place a 'dummy' door in front of a open exterior shell door. The dummy door would have a sign on it that said 'Carnival Refund Department' and at night direct them to that office-hehe..
This is what happens when people do not know how to handle themselves and do not realize that their actions have consequences.
Having worked in travel for about 10 years now I can honestlty say that people from varying economic and social groups can act this way. I worked for budget travel agencies and very high end agencies. In both I found people who beleive that the world owes them. About a year ago at the high end agency I worked at a client called me on her way to the airport she went to checkin 1 hour before an international flight. She needed at least 2 1/2 to 3 hours to checkin. She argued with me and threatened my life because she claims I never told her this. Now I honestly could not remember if I did or not because I see many people in one day! However I said to her it was printed on the confirmation I sent to her. The confirmations I send out state for domestic flights arrive 90 minutes before the flight and for international arrive 2 & 1/2 hours before. She says to me that she never read it. After she came back from her trip she demanded that our office pay the fees she incurred at the airport because she missed her original flight and had to be rebooked on another.
We never gave her a thing. This is a perfect example of people who beleive that the world owes them.
In the Carnival case it was too bad they missed Jamaica but its in the contract that ports can be missed based on external factors. The man should have just complained like an adult when he got home. I know for a fact that this man went to the desk and let them have it. Thats not right. He got what he deserved. When you look at it the day they missed the port I am sure he ate the food onboard, he slept in his cabin, used ship facilities so he got what he paid for and got back the port charges he was charged for the place he did not visit. Like I tell all my clients the world is not perfect and unfortunately when you travel its still not perfect. Youhave to roll with the punches at times.
quote:lasuvidaboy - This is what happens when trash goes to sea!
love the comment!
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:This is what happens when trash goes to sea!
How will the Garden Villa or equivalent feel about the ruckus reverberating into their exclusive areas when paying 25k a week.
she is real angry about it
[ 04-10-2008: Message edited by: desirod7 ]
quote:Originally posted by nycruiser:I have to say I disagree with the comment "this is what happen when trash goes to sea"This is what happens when people do not know how to handle themselves and do not realize that their actions have consequences.
Some of the most abusive passengers I've ever seen have indeed been far away from the budget crowd. This is where you usually get people asking, "Do you know who I am?"
Should deflate them a little.
quote:Originally posted by dougnewman:I assume the "trash" comment was in jest, at least as relates to socio-economic status anyway.
I am not a PC person-thankfully but 'trash' can be from any socio-economic/racial background.
quote:Originally posted by mike sa:Where upon you pick up the PA and ask for anyone to come to Pursers desk immediately as you have someone there who doesn't know who he is............
More discreet would be a fake phone call to the hospital asking for immediate assistance as a passenger has just been caught in the grip of a severe case of amnesia! "Yes doctor, please someone up right away, this gentleman is obviously very ill - he can't even tell me who he is!"
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:I am not a PC person-thankfully but 'trash' can be from any socio-economic/racial background.
So true: Last year in Bryn Mawr, Pa there was an anti Iraq war protest. A disgusting older man drove by in a black Bentley convertible and flipped his middle finger to the demonstration.
I think $25 is a lousy refund, what about all the time spent planning your vacation. I think the refund RCI gives is much larger, I think it more like $100 shipboard credit or something.
As for the $25, they are not refunding the 'experience' you would have had, but your part of the fees the ship was charged for docking. People just dont get it. They keep whining about the missed port. If you wanted to go there that bad, booked a whole 7-night cruise for 8-hours in a single port, run the chance of things going wrong in that 8-hours, next time book a flight and go stay there.
You are owed NOTHING if a port if missed. Read your cruise ticket. You are lucky they give you anything at all. Be grateful you got the $25.
Sparks & co should have been left to make their own way home, and hope they had passports or they would have had a bit of trouble. [I see the US has now done away with the requirement of passports for cruisers at some point .. daft imo].
Pam
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