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Rex
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posted 05-18-2007 01:30 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Based on personal experience and what you have heard from others....no arguing please. IMO, Costa and NCL take beatings in this department.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-18-2007 01:35 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Carnival's ms Holiday though I understand their food is quite good now.
As an example I ordered French onion soup for dinner and received a bowl of warm flavorless onion broth w/1 crouton and some shaved dried Parmesan cheese on top-and the rest was not much better. The food was not up to Denny's (an inexpensive US restaurant chain) standards.

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eroller
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posted 05-18-2007 04:37 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually the worst food and service I can recall on any ship was the QE2 a couple years ago tied with NORWEGIAN DREAM also a couple years ago. The experience on both ships was dismal. I have since sailed on QE2 and also NCL and have had much better experiences. In fact my last cruise on QE2 (Princess Grill) offered some of the best food and service I've experienced on any ship. It's amazing there could be such a disparity on the same ship. For the most part I've found food and service on all my cruises to be pretty decent, but those two cruises are definitely stand-outs as the worst.

Ernie


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jeffrossatsea
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posted 05-18-2007 06:12 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
for me...it was dolphin's "seabreeze"....most of the meals were tasteless.....jeff
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Grant
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posted 05-18-2007 07:21 PM      Profile for Grant   Email Grant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For me is was my last NCL voyage. I always thought I was receiving inferior grades of meat, the fruit and vegitables seemed less than fresh and were blemished, and the buffet lunchs were nothing but stale left overs.
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mike sa
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posted 05-19-2007 01:44 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
5 years ago Brilliance of the Seas, the main restaurant was in fact so bad both in terms of service and quality we gave up and ate in either Chops or Portifino every night after the first 3 days of a 14 day cruise. Both Chops and Portifino were great but it got a little boring. Even the lido was not good with food served stone cold and even congealed. For lunch we stuck to burgers.

Strange how RCI have never seemed to emphasize the food aspect of their cruises, even Carnival have their expert chef nowadays, Celebrity is well known for their food etc, RCI doesn't seem to make much of it except to advertise the dining room itself.

Luckily I know the the BofS experience was it not a one of then rare so will be cruising RCI again soon in fact.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-19-2007 10:59 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
5 years ago Brilliance of the Seas, the main restaurant was in fact so bad both in terms of service and quality we gave up .

It's strage how standards can vary over time, even from week to week. I had a good experince on board BOTS: See Here.

quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Actually the worst food and service I can recall on any ship was the QE2 a couple years ago..

I was there too with Ernie. Cunard 'M' grade represented the worst food and service I've had afloat, yet a higher fare than any mass market line and a mediocre cabin. In fact I had the worst steak of my life that week. The Life Vest would have been more tender and tasty.

And before the Cunard fans explode in a "how dare you say anything bad about Cunard again" , I'm not saying 'M' grade is always poor, but it was for our week - trust us.

[ 05-20-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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posted 05-19-2007 11:35 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

I was there too with Ernie. Cunard 'M' grade represented the worst food and service I've had afloat, yet a higher fare than any mass market line and a modiocre cabin. In fact I had the worst steak of my life that week. The Life Vest would have been more tender and tasty.

And before the Cunard fans explode in a "how dare you say anything bad about Cunard again" , I'm not saying 'M' grade is always poor, but it was for our week - trust us.

[ 05-19-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT CUNARD AGAIN!!!!
lol jk

Did you ever try the QE2 again?

[ 05-19-2007: Message edited by: Cunard Fan ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-19-2007 11:42 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:
Did you ever try the QE2 again?

No mainly because I do not tend to cruise on ships twice.

Everyone agrees that the QE2 Grills are excellent, but if they can't provide great food for an extra £100 ($200) per day ontop of the 'M' grade fare, there would be something very wrong!


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eroller
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posted 05-20-2007 10:20 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage: I was there too with Ernie. Cunard 'M' grade represented the worst food and service I've had afloat, yet a higher fare than any mass market line and a modiocre cabin. In fact I had the worst steak of my life that week. The Life Vest would have been more tender and tasty.

I think I had the same steak. Lost a tooth as I recall.

Really the food and service levels that we experienced on QE2 were unacceptable. Not only for Cunard but for any cruise ship. I've never experienced such poor food and service even on mass-market lines such as Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and even Premier. It was pathetic.

Also, you should not have to pay out of your ass on QE2 with an upgrade to Princess or Queens Grill just to experience decent food and service. The minimum standard and QE2 should be equal to or better than other Premium lines such as Holland America and Celebrity.

Personally I'm not in any rush to return to QE2. My last experience on her was excellent but to be honest she was never a favorite of mine even 20+ years ago. She just stands out more now as a classic because there are far fewer classic ships to choose from.

Ernie


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-20-2007 10:33 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd like to try 'Grill' on a Cunarder, but I am not going to pay their fare for it!

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-20-2007 01:51 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cruise ship dining rooms can be like restaurants onshore. There is always a chance that an excellent restaurant will have an 'off' night when things just don't come together as planned. The problem could be in the kitchen or the wait staff or a combination of both.
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eroller
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posted 05-20-2007 03:23 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy: Cruise ship dining rooms can be like restaurants onshore. There is always a chance that an excellent restaurant will have an 'off' night when things just don't come together as planned. The problem could be in the kitchen or the wait staff or a combination of both.


I agree 100%, but I even expand your thoughts to include the entire cruise experience. I think every ship and cruise line can have an "off" cruise so to speak. Mine on QE2 was definitely an example and when I returned I experienced something completely different. Likewise with NCL and a few other lines where I have experienced this. I will always give a cruise line a second chance, but if the experience is not better the second time around then I will not return. Thankfully this has not happened yet and I have already sailed all the major lines so I know how excellent they all can be.

I think the staff, crew, chef, CD, entertainers, passengers, weather, ports, etc. are all variables that can change from one cruise to the next and have a real impact (positive or negative) on the overall cruise experience. This is one reason consistency is so difficult for cruise lines to maintain.

Ernie


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-20-2007 03:41 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The reason I thought of the 'off' senario is we went to a restaurant we dine at frequently last night and the entire experience was not up to their usual standard. The food was delivered late (and not hot), drinks/water not filled and we had to ask for the check twice to make it to a concert on time. We will return but it was interesting how a consistantly excellent restaurant (that is very popular) came up short this time.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-20-2007 03:45 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would also add it is like putting on a show and in many ways a cruise is quite theatrical. 'Performers' or crew member can rehearse over and over yet there is the chance of the entire 'production' bombing when one this goes wrong!
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Ernst
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posted 05-20-2007 04:13 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...and some people forget that. Combine it with sometimes excessively high expectations and a not too bad cruise easily ends as 'disaster'.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-20-2007 04:27 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
There is always a chance that an excellent restaurant will have an 'off' night when things just don't come together as planned.

In the case of my QE2 cruise it was 5 'off' nights.

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Combine it with sometimes excessively high expectations and a not too bad cruise easily ends as 'disaster'.

High expectations are not surprising in the case of the QE2. After all Cunard called her "the most famous ship in the world" (which I don't doubt) and charge a relatively high fare, even for steerage.

However passengers like Ernie who have been around a bit know poor food and service when they experience it.

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posted 05-22-2007 08:40 AM      Profile for jetwet1   Author's Homepage   Email jetwet1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Without a seconds thought it would have to be HAL for me, not only was the food at every evening meal cold, the majority of it was tasteless and the portions tiny, heck one night I ended up eating chicken wings...6 orders because when HAL says wings it means plural..two..thats it..cant bring out more than two.I was expecting a lot better from a premium line.

The reverse can be said for CCL, on our last cruise, on the Legend, we had great food and a wait team that was second only to those at Prime in the Bellagio, I was amazed.

Of course no best of food thingy is complete without a mention of the Lasagna on Princess.


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posted 05-22-2007 12:44 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As for luke warm food one must remember that the plates are prepared in advance and sit on a steam table or similar.
I refrain from ordering any beef from RCL,Celebrity as they have range feed beef from Argentina where they have a processing plant.Usually tough. In some cases they put bacon around a filet.to tenderize it. However the whole thing then tastes like bacon. Americans are use to corn fed beef which is very tender.
I am a soup fan and have never had a bad bowl on any cruise.
F4

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posted 05-22-2007 01:09 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Frosty it may well depend on where you were sailing as American beef was [I think it is still severely restricted] banned from the EU and other areas due to the continued use of growth hormones which are carciogenic. Only Organic American beef can be imported.

It's really a matter of what one is used to.

On all lines/ships I've had excellent, good and not so good meals [warm not hot]. QE2 was consistently not so good but it was only Mauretania and 3 nights, the service was lousy, however on QM2 everything was reversed. I've only ever had to return one dish, where the chicken was still frozen [HAL], but the rest of the food on that trip was very good. P&O dished up slops at lunchtime in the lido, yet dining room food was great. Often descriptions have caused a few laughs but it's all part of the experience as I don't want gourmet meals that I can have any time back home in a restaurant. It's nice to experience different dishes.

Pam


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posted 05-24-2007 07:01 PM      Profile for mrblanche   Email mrblanche   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know this goes contrary to most people's experience, but Celebrity was the least inspired dining I have ever seen. But, if I recall, that was soon after some major ownership changes, and that can affect a lot of things.
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mike sa
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posted 05-29-2007 08:43 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Generally the quality of the food served at the table is directly linked to the cost - ie: how much per person the line is spending per day. Of the main stream lines Celebrity used to spend more than any other, Carnival used to spend the least, certainly this will have changed, I know Carnival have moved up the rankings - unfortunately I do not know whether these are still produced but I know many pax and of course us here would love to see -

How much is spent per day per pax on say food, how much each line pays its staff etc. Ones expectation of the cruise could then be more realistic.

Of course not all cruise lines now punt their food, RCI's new brochure received today spends exactly 4 lines out of over 90 pages on the subject and even then only mentions that there is a main dining room, Portofinos, Chops, Jade and Windjammer Cafe, nothing really at all saying how "gourmet" or otherwise the food is ! They then spend page after page punting pools, flowriders etc. Obviously for RCI food is not an issue, as witnessed by myself on occasion.


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posted 05-29-2007 09:25 AM      Profile for Matts     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most cruise food is very good - I'd love to see what the moaners eat at home!. However its not uniformly so. I've had bad lunches on QE2, poor dinners on Costa and generally all round mediocre food consistently on RCI. There is quite a difference between US and UK ships in the ratio of meat to veg I've found. But the only cruise I've had where the food was rubbish quality for each and every meal was Fred Olsen. But it was a dirt cheap cruise and you get what you pay for (except on QE2!).
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posted 05-29-2007 09:34 AM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Carnival has some of the best prime rib I've ever tasted; I think they have an entire county in Iowa where everyone's job is to supply Carnival with USDA prime beef. But their cold cuts selection is poor - mainly bologna and processed American cheese - has this changed recently? I want to try one of their alternative restaurants - I could go for a big porterhouse right now.
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posted 05-29-2007 09:34 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Matts:
[...] But the only cruise I've had where the food was rubbish quality for each and every meal was Fred Olsen. [...]

I also had pretty bad food aboard Black Watch during my whole cruise - certainly one of the worst I ever had. I nevertheless can not tell whether this was typical for Fred Olsen or Black Watch and it is also some years ago now. Beside that, it seemed as if most passengers (!) really enjoyed (!) it.


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