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posted 05-17-2007 01:36 PM      Profile for timb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/local/sfl-zwave17may17,0,2882626.stor y?coll=sfla-business-front

A New Jersey woman testified on Wednesday that she still gets nightmares about an April 2005 cruise that was slammed by heavy seas for hours and eventually struck by a 70-foot wave.

"It's always about water," said Sandra Krahling, a passenger on the Norwegian Dawn cruise from Miami to New York. "I just remember seeing propellers coming out of the water. I open doors and there's water coming in."

Krahling is one of four people suing Norwegian Cruise Line for emotional damage from the cruise, which was forced to divert to Charleston, S.C., after windows broke, flooding 62 cabins.

The suit filed by Miami lawyer Brett Rivkind alleges Norwegian recklessly tried to sail through the storm to tape an appearance on the Donald Trump show The Apprentice, for which it had agreed to pay $800,000.

"NCL's choices ended up risking the lives and safety of those passengers," Rivkind told jurors.

Attorneys for the cruise line said that the ship's course was reasonable given the weather forecasts and that of 2,200 passengers only four were injured. They contend that no one had lasting psychological trauma. "At some point people were scared and uncomfortable. But then it was over," attorney Curtis Mase said.

Krahling said the weather gradually worsened on Friday, April 15, 2005, as the ship tried to make a 5 a.m. Sunday arrival in New York. "The ship started to feel and sound like it was twisted," said Krahling, who testified she was thrown across a dining-room table by the force of one wave and later jolted out of bed onto the floor by another.

She made her way to the atrium of the ship, where many passengers had gathered. "I just stayed there because I was so terrified," she said. Around 6:10 a.m. on Saturday, a wave estimated at 60 to 70 feet struck the ninth and 10th decks of the 13-story ship, prompting panic among the passengers, Krahling said. "They weren't just talking, they weren't hollering, they were screaming for life because they were so terrified."

Krahling said the captain told passengers moments later over the public address system that the ship was OK, but rather than talking, as in previous announcements, he was yelling. "Then I knew we were going to die," she said.

After the cruise, Krahling said she was out of sorts for weeks. "I was just scrambled. I couldn't get myself together," she said.

Krahling testified that she still gets anxious talking about the cruise or watching television shows about boats. But questioned by NCL attorneys, she said she had no physical injuries from the cruise and did not see a psychologist or psychiatrist afterward, other than the expert ones hired in preparation for the lawsuit.

A National Transportation Safety Board report concluded that damage sustained by the ship did not pose a serious safety hazard.

The trial before U.S. District Judge Cecilia Altonaga in Miami is expected to take about three weeks.

[ 05-20-2007: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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Dave the Wave
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posted 05-17-2007 02:34 PM      Profile for Dave the Wave   Email Dave the Wave   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Come on! Lady get a life, lawyer get a job...
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posted 05-17-2007 05:19 PM      Profile for 6263866   Email 6263866   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh please, not more of these kind of people.....
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posted 05-17-2007 06:17 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why does this case need 3 weeks? It has already been determined by the NTSB that the claim is not true and as she had no bruises or felt the need for any treatment or counselling she is hardly traumatised. If she see images of propellers out the water in her dreams, she as been watching too many movies and needs help with that aspect of distinguishing reality from fiction. Pictures of $$$ are tempting it seems, hope they become -$$$. This sort of stuff wastes time for real cases.

Pam


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posted 05-17-2007 07:22 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She saw the propellers coming out of the water. Where on earth was she, when she saw that. She was not hanging over the stern railing in that wetter.

Really hope she must pay damage to NCL 1.5 million us dollars. Would bet there would be a sudden drop in such law suites.

Greetings Ben.


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nycruiser
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posted 05-18-2007 12:06 AM      Profile for nycruiser   Email nycruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You know I am sure it was not a pleasent sailing but enough is enough!!!! A few years a back I was on a flight from NYC to Miami out of La Guardia airport in NYC. This particular airport is known for its shorter runways and the pilot had to use the shortest one for take off and told us that we would have a spirited takeoff. It was some takeoff and since has made me very nervous to fly (I still fly) so should I sue American Airlines for this? Really when does this end people need to use their common sense and stop being so damn greedy!
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posted 05-18-2007 02:26 AM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I really feel sorry for this womman. I am sure NCL knew that that wave was coming!

NCL dilibritly sailed in to that wave!

Really what are ship suppost to do? Sail around every storm that comes in? No. Ships are built to withstand storms.

People need to get a life!


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posted 05-18-2007 04:31 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:
Ships are built to withstand storms.

Cruise ships are certainly NOT comfortable in storms and not designed to handle them if they are very severe. They are also not designed to handle them too often for that matter, compared to an ‘Ocean Liner’.

What worries me is the forward facing balcony Cabins on NCL (and some other cruise ships). I recall the story of a wave breaking the patio doors, flooding the forward-facing cabins and injuring some passengers.

If someone had died, I think this design would have to be seriously re-thought.


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posted 05-18-2007 05:48 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The thread when the NSTB's report was issued is here. Quite how/why a further case has made it to court I don't know. If someone had years and years of treatment bills to pay maybe they would be looking to cover them, but that is not the case here. As it does not even mention that she was an occupant of one of the damaged cabins I imagine she wasn't, or that aspect would be played on too. Can't see the props there:~) or anywhere else aboard; in her imagination.

Pam


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posted 05-18-2007 09:18 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
[...]

Cruise ships are certainly NOT comfortable in storms and not designed to handle them if they are very severe. They are also not designed to handle them too often for that matter, compared to an ‘Ocean Liner’. [...]


A cruise ship can very well handle several stroms - this is NOT the reason why a ship avoids a storm - NOBODY (beside idiots) deliberately sails into a sever storm. Sometimes it can not be avoided - but even with the largest, strongest ship one would first try not to sail into the bad weather.


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timb
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posted 05-18-2007 10:31 AM      Profile for timb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess the best we can hope for is this lady gets stuck with the court costs for this frivilous law suit
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posted 05-18-2007 01:41 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Cruise ships are certainly NOT comfortable in storms and not designed to handle them if they are very severe. They are also not designed to handle them too often for that matter, compared to an ‘Ocean Liner’.


Exactly. QM2 and QE2 are designed to cut through severe seas-keeping passengers as comfortable as possible while keeping to a schedule.


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posted 05-18-2007 05:02 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Exactly. QM2 and QE2 are designed to cut through severe seas-keeping passengers as comfortable as possible while keeping to a schedule.


I may assure you that also QE2 and QM2 are not going into a storm deliberately. Every reasonable seaman will first try to avoid the storm. (and thier speed actually makes it easier to do that an keep the schedule)

QE2 and QM2 have certainly good seakeeping abilities - but do not underestimate the abilities of other passenger ships - most are actually not bad at all. (mind you that most passenger ships are slower than QE2 or QM2)

Any ship - also QE2 and QM2 - can be damaged in a storm - but it would be very, very unusual to see severe structural damage on a modern passenger ship due to a storm.


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posted 05-18-2007 05:21 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ernst-I knew that would get a response.
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posted 05-18-2007 05:32 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Ernst-I knew that would get a response.

I admit that it is somehow easy to predict. Don't misunderstand it as disrespect for QE2 or QM2 or old ships or 'liners' - I just do not like this notion that all modern passenger ships are badly built - this is certainly not the case.

I am not a big friend of this casuistic aruments - and it is not representative either - but still fun to watch: 'box boat 'slicing' trough the waves'

(I hope nobody is traumatized and sues me )

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Finnjet is not a good example, as not a normal vessel Watch those horizons, they are stationary. She literally ploughs through and shoves everything thrown at her aside. Quite amazing to watch. Anything else would be heaving up and down and rolling all over. My lawyer will be in touch

Pam


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posted 05-18-2007 05:59 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think modern boxboats are poorly built but most are'nt really designed for high seas. As an example there have been renderings of the new RCI megaships showing their boats hung out over the ships side and 3-4 decks above the waterline. A large wave on the North Atlantic could tear one or more off their davits but then again those types of ships are not intended for cruises in waters that may be rough at times. I was on a cruise w/my Grandparents back in the 1970s on the Royal Viking Line (Star or Sky). We hit some rough weather and the captain turned the ship around-stern first into the oncoming seas. I later heard this maneuver protected the ships heavily raked bow from damage. I don't think a ship designed for N. Atlantic liner service would need to do the same as the waves were not that bad.
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Ernst
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posted 05-18-2007 06:12 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes - not every passenger ships is designed for the North Atlantic. There are of course differences - the Royal Viking trio is maybe an extreme example - but they also would not fall apart - we talk here about 'minor' damage - like it later happened later to two of them them. (maybe a bit more than minor - but it's not that the hull was split on two parts when the 'nose' has been bent upwards)

Nevertheless, also QE2 and QM2 can not ignore a severe storm - they are built to handle sever weather better (more comfortable - less damage - higher speed) - and one can not always avoid going trough a storm - but no good officer would deliberately go into a severe storm.


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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Cruise ships are certainly NOT comfortable in storms and not designed to handle them if they are very severe. They are also not designed to handle them too often for that matter, compared to an ‘Ocean Liner’.


I know that. They are not built to sail through severe storms a lot, however cruises ships are built so that they would not be in danger if a storm hit them. Obviously they don't have to deal with them on as regular a basis as the Queens but they are not so badly built that they can't handle them on occasion, if there was no other way to go.

As far as I know that particular storm was not severe. I could be wrong about that. However if it was a severe storm I can't imagine that the captain would have sailed in to it.


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posted 05-19-2007 06:34 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
NOBODY (beside idiots) deliberately sails into a sever storm. Sometimes it can not be avoided..

It's not that simple Ernst.

I did a December crossing on the QE2 a few years back. The Captain announced that there was a force 10 storm in the middle of the Atlantic. He went on to say that 'the computer' said the conditions would be better if the ship passed through the heart of the storm, rather than if it tried to go around it.

Was this ship here built for storms: See Here? I think she lost power BECAUSE a wave shattered the bridge windows and flooded the bridge.

The ship has a low profile and there is not much between the bow and the bridge windows, unlike the Queens which have Bridges perched high up on the superstructure.

[ 05-19-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Was this ship here built for storms: See Here? I think she lost power BECAUSE a wave shattered the bridge windows and flooded the bridge.



This video was talked about here before and I believe it was said that the power was not lost but cut on purpose for a test or something.


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quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:
..I believe it was said that the power was not lost but cut on purpose for a test or something.

No, see HERE.

The helicopter is a rescue chopper, they are not filming it for 'fun'.

[ 05-19-2007: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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posted 05-19-2007 01:48 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
[...]

I did a December crossing on the QE2 a few years back. The Captain announced that there was a force 10 storm in the middle of the Atlantic. He went on to say that 'the computer' said the conditions would be better if the ship passed through the heart of the storm, rather than if it tried to go around it. [...]


But this IS what I mean - one would certainly do anything to avoid the storm - sometimes one just can not avoid the storm - as in this case.

Broken glass is a different issue than a structural failure (as discussed above) - rest assured that also the windows of QE2 can break. (nothing against QE2)

One can certainly not discuss this topic by citing single events which have nothing to do with each other, nevertheless - here an
'old' ship in rough sea - to show you that water can very well make it to the bridge windows on an old ship too.

Again - against 'urban myths' - ANY passenger ships has to be capable of handling pretty high waves (16 m 'high') - freak waves are not yet considered in regulations but in most cases they are NOT a problem for the structural strength of a modern passenger ship. (and in most cases they also stay afloat)
i
Mind you that the MAJOR risk is debirs from furniture, broken glass, people falling etc. - I would be more concerned about that and not about the hull breaking apart.


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It should be stated that, generaly speaking, new ships perform better than old ships in severe weather. When designing a new ship, much care is taken to develop a hull form that has a natural frequency far from the frequency of sea conditions that the ship is expected to encounter. This was not considered with ships of the far past.

Considering structural strength, there is no doubt that the foreward works of newer ships are considerably more robust than those of older ships. In fact, many newer cruise ships have bow shell plating thicker than found on the bows of "ocean liners", simply because newer ships have more bow flare, which increases the loadings on the plating from wave impact. (Class rules state that bow plating thickness should be based on the height above waterline, ship's maximum speed, and most importantly of all, flare.)

I expect that a ship like the Norwegian Dawn performs better in severe weather than 90% of those ships labeled as "true ocean liners".


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I can't recall the detail but there was a particular name mentioned for the type of rolling Grand Voyager experienced. Something to do with unfortunate coincidences with the wave lengths being a specific % of her length or breadth? more often occurs with container vessels which have flat bottomed sterns? maybe someone can enlighten us, as I have no idea where I read this now.

Pam


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