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Topic: RCI to boost European deployment

bulbousbow
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Member # 4440

posted 02-26-2007 08:06 AM

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Royal Caribbean's big European news
February 26, 2007
Miami-based Richard Fain, chairman of Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd., and Royal Caribbean International president Adam Goldstein, both currently in the UK, will join Susan Hooper, svp EMEA for RCI/Celebrity, and other senior UK management this evening in London to make 'a significant announcement regarding a major increase in RCI's European deployment'.
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recab
First Class Passenger
Member # 1677

posted 02-26-2007 08:28 AM

Yes, the Independence of the Seas will spend her first summer season in Europe.

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Robertdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 6300

posted 02-26-2007 09:09 AM

Yes, I heared about that too. She will be based in Southampton in 2008.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 02-26-2007 10:53 AM

Only a few years ago the only visiting American ships to UK ports were older/smaller vessels of the various fleets. I would have never have guessed that we would be getting a 'Voyager' class, let alone a 'Freedom' class.

It's about time NCL sent us a newer vessel than 'Dream', though.

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Carlos Fernandez
First Class Passenger
Member # 6432

posted 02-26-2007 11:20 AM

Independence of the Seas is a ship designed to cruise the tropical caribbean. I think Genesis will be the one or a new post-panamax class.

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 02-26-2007 11:30 AM

Malcolm - If NCL were clever they would be sending 2 of their newest ships to Europe, however it seems that they are happy doing what they do ?

The dream is past it and they will never get top dollar for it, RCIs decision is in stark contrast to theirs - it shows in their results too.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 02-26-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by mike sa:
Malcolm - If NCL were clever they would be sending 2 of their newest ships to Europe, however it seems that they are happy doing what they do ?
The dream is past it and they will never get top dollar for it, RCIs decision is in stark contrast to theirs - it shows in their results too.

NCL are clearly focused on Hawaii and US homeport cruising and NOT the UK market.

We may be a little island but we are the worlds second biggest cruise market. RCI and the Carnival brands (Cunard, P&O & Princess) obviously appreciate this.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 02-26-2007 12:35 PM

The appeal of Norwegian Dream is that she can sail through the Kiel Canal... non of the other NCL vessels can and they would lose that big plus point. People often pick the ship because of this.

Pam

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 02-26-2007 12:39 PM

Can't Norwegian Dream and Norwegian Majesty also transit the Kiel Canal?

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 02-26-2007 01:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
Can't Norwegian Dream and Norwegian Majesty also transit the Kiel Canal?

Good point Mec1 and PamM, I'd forgotten about the folding funnel.
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Olsen's smaller vessels can of course also take the short-cut of the Canal.

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GregD
First Class Passenger
Member # 4176

posted 02-26-2007 01:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
Can't Norwegian Dream and Norwegian Majesty also transit the Kiel Canal?

Im sure the Majesty can, but it is only the Dream with the fold down Funnel and Radar mast

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 02-26-2007 01:59 PM

Yes, Norwegian Majesty can.. but she is older than Dream, albeit by not much.. Malcolm is wanting a new ship. Dream's funnel was specifically designed for the Kiel Canal so why not leave her sailing it; she seems to be quite popular with some, even her own fan club along the canal.

Pam

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 02-26-2007 02:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
...she seems to be quite popular with some, even her own fan club along the canal.

The fares on 'Dream' each summer are some of the cheapest offered by anyone for ex-UK the Baltic itinerary.

I've got nothing against 'Dream', I just would like to try an NCL newbuild which are built for Freestyle, from a UK port if the date, price and itinerary were right.

Dream is almost a prototype by comparison to the new NCL vessels.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 02-26-2007 02:26 PM

Don't moan Malcolm

to be honest sailings ex UK seem to be at an all time peak this year; just look at the port schedules. We have some of the newest to some of the oldest vessels... I would say that in the UK at present we have the widest range of types and styles of cruising than anywhere else in the world. We should be thankful.

If you want a purpose built Freestyle vessel then there were the opportunities on Jewel & Pearl.. and Gem coming up in Oct time. Take the transat - fantastic value.

Pam

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 02-26-2007 02:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
The fares on 'Dream' each summer are some of the cheapest offered by anyone for ex-UK the Baltic itinerary.

There's a 6 nighter for £299 inc gratuities to Norway on Arielle up for grabs.

Pam

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 02-26-2007 03:24 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PamM:
Don't moan Malcolm

But Pam, I'm so good at it!

I would say that in the UK at present we have the widest range of types and styles of cruising than anywhere else in the world. We should be thankful.

Agreed. I am thankful, but I want an NCL newbuild and I'm restricted to the School summer holidays.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 02-26-2007 03:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
There's a 6 nighter for £299 inc gratuities to Norway on Arielle up for grabs.

Wow! Must be a cabin ten?

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NWLB
First Class Passenger
Member # 1987

posted 02-27-2007 08:47 PM

The moves make sense. They introduce and get the UK market hooked on the ships they feel will define the larger market. I wouldn't want Carnival effectively passing their ships off as the "standard" when the RCI designs are vastly more original and appealing. (from my point of view, which I offer only as such.)

That makes selling the UK and others on the same class of ships in another market so much easier I would think.

And it provides me with options to travel in the UK.

Everybody should be happy.

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