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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-29-2006 06:04 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I’ve just returned from a 7 Night ‘Red Sea’ cruise on ‘Thomson Celebration’ (ex Holland 1984 America’s Noordam) with Thomson cruises. I was warned by some people that I should not touch ‘Thomson’ with a barge-pole, as they were a 'budget' cruise line. Interestingly these were all people that have never cruises with them.

It is often claimed that Thomson get such good reviews simply because many of their passengers are cruise ‘virgins’ and know no better. Well, I can now firmly disagree. Thomson get such good reviews because they are great value and offer a very good product.

The ship was charming, a perfect size at around 34,000 gt and in good condition. Many original features and furniture appeared to remain. The teak promenade deck. observation lounge and fantail were a joy.

The onboard atmosphere is very British as are the menu’s. The levels of food and service exceeded my expectations. In fact in the main dining room they were better than I had experienced onboard the QE2’s Mauritania grade. The Lido Buffet was well ran and offered tasty and plentiful options.

The passengers were very friendly (more than most), and came from many walks of life, including many Teachers, an accountant, P&O regulars and a woman that spent six weeks onboard the QM2 last year. There was a wide age range and many families, but the kids caused no problems for me. The one think that all people had in common is that they did not want to spend a fortune on taking a cruise.

The entertainment was surprising broad (broader than RCI for example). In addition to the normal range of song and dance type shows and bingo, there was a Cinema, some enrichment lectures and two plays were staged during the week. The ship never seemed too overcrowded and absorbed her 1250 passengers well.

Thomson’s organization, embarkation and disembarkation was the smoothest that I’ve ever experienced with any cruise (other lines please note). The flight was virtually ‘free’ when you considered that the overall package did not cost so much more than the flight, if it had been purchased separately. Thomson does not even require you to tip the staff. Needless to say the cruise was the cheapest I have taken, certainly the best value and one of the more enjoyable.

I would fully recommend the Thompson product for Brits , especially ‘Celebration’ and her twin sister ‘Spirit’ (ex Nieuw Amsterdam). I would now also seriously certainly consider ‘Thomson Destiny’ (ex RCI ‘Song of America’, My Travel’s ‘Sunbird’) which gets good reviews and next year they will offer ‘Calypso’.

I will be writting a review soon, for those interested in the finer details of this bargan!

(Thanks to Mec1 and Sread who both have provide postive feedback in the past, about Thomson which persuaded me to try the product).

[ 12-29-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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Tom Burke
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posted 12-29-2006 11:14 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thaks for that, Malcolm - it's definitely given me something to think about, for 2008 maybe.

You were on Thomson Celebration, I see. It looks as if Thomson Spirit is a very similar ship, possibly a sister ship? And what about Thomson Destiny?


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sympatico
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posted 12-29-2006 11:51 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
Thaks for that, Malcolm - it's definitely given me something to think about, for 2008 maybe.

You were on Thomson Celebration, I see. It looks as if Thomson Spirit is a very similar ship, possibly a sister ship? And what about Thomson Destiny?



Yes Tom, Celebration and Spirit are sister ships. I sailed on them many times when HAL brought them out as the Nieuw Amsterdam and Noordam. We loved both those ships - they were the perfect size.

Malcolm - glad you enjoyed your cruise.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-29-2006 01:00 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes as Sympatico rightly says 'Spirit' and 'Celebration' are virtually identical being built in 1983 and 1984 respectably.

Thomson 'Destiny', formerly RCI's 'Song of America (1983) was very popular with Brits as Airtours (Mytravel) 'Sunbird'.

I've never cruised on 'Destiny' but I recall that sread recently had a great time on her. So it appears that Thomson are carrying on the Airtours tradition.

It will be interesting to see the first Calypso reviews in 2007 when Thomson charters her. At 11,000 gt and adults only, she will be offering a slightly different product to the rest of the Thomson fleet.

[ 12-29-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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Waynaro
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posted 12-29-2006 01:26 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the brief review. Can't wait to read the review.
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sslewis
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posted 12-29-2006 01:40 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It would be nice to see some photos of my dear former "N" ships Malcom!
It looks like theiy are now settled into Thompson.
Ultra-cheap cruises can be experienced when one of the vessel sails from/to Southampton-Newcastle.

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Noordam
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posted 12-29-2006 02:25 PM      Profile for Noordam   Email Noordam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I spent one year on the old Noordam, and although by the time I got to her she wasn't a looker, she was certainly comfortable and fun! I would love to see some pictures of the old haunt!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-29-2006 02:55 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I still use 35mm film, but I will post some images in a few weeks.

I would not be surprised in Thomson have only changed the carpets. Much of the decor and especially the cabin furniture looks like it must be original to me. Much of it had a 1969-1970's QE2 type feel to me, although the ship was built in 1984.

It looked as if my deluxe cabin (deck six) was probablly called a 'suite' originally, used to have a cassette tape played built into the dressing table/cuppboard assembly. The push buttons were still their but not the slot for a tape?

Anyone?


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Steve Read (sread)
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posted 12-29-2006 03:28 PM      Profile for Steve Read (sread)   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Read (sread)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excellent review, Malcolm ;-) Deserves to be seen by a wider audience.....

I'm going on Destiny (ex-Sunbird) at the beginning of February, and on Calypso later in the year.

Everything I've heard suggests that Thomson are indeed continuing the excellent tradition started by Airtours / MyTravel.


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rem-dk
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posted 12-29-2006 03:42 PM      Profile for rem-dk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welcome back, and thank you for bringing the good "news".

Sincerely René.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-29-2006 04:08 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sread:
Excellent review, Malcolm ;-) Deserves to be seen by a wider audience......

Thanks Steve. I suspect some members of cruisetalk are pretty 'wide'.

After the cruise I'm certainly wider that I was before.


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sympatico
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posted 12-29-2006 06:50 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

I would not be surprised in Thomson have only changed the carpets. Much of the decor and especially the cabin furniture looks like it must be original to me. Much of it had a 1969-1970's QE2 type feel to me, although the ship was built in 1984.

It looked as if my deluxe cabin (deck six) was probablly called a 'suite' originally, used to have a cassette tape played built into the dressing table/cuppboard assembly. The push buttons were still their but not the slot for a tape?

Anyone?


Oh, Malcolm, I wish I still had a brochure showing the deck plans for the HAL ships and then I could maybe tell which type of a cabin you were in.

The top cabins were categorized as A Suites and were on the Navigation & Boat decks. None of the cabins had a cassette player - only a radio which was built into the headboard of the bed. I don't ever remember anything being built into the dressing table.

These cabins had a King size bed, huge dresser and sitting area with a sofa and a coffee table, which were placed under the window. I don't know what "deck 6" would be on the Thomson ships. On the HAL ships, Deck 6 would have been in the bowels of the ship, so looks like Thomson have changed the deck #'s.

We had one of these cabins a couple of times, but normally took either cabin 200 or 201, which were the 2 middle cabins on the Upper Promenade deck at the very front of the ship. We loved these cabins, although we did often have people peering in the windows at us - no one way glass in those days, so you did have to keep your curtains/drapes closed. I will look and see if I have any pictures, which I am sure I do.

NOORDAM - when did you sail on the old Noordam and in what capacity? Who knows, we might have met you. Who were the Captains & HotMen when you sailed - do you remember?


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-29-2006 07:36 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sympatico, we had a Prom deck delux cabin (now called deck six) with two square windows. Here is Thomsons deck plan:

Click Here.

Here are some images of the cabins now: See Here.


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sympatico
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posted 12-29-2006 07:50 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Malcolm

I see that the cabins we took on the Upper Prom deck are still numbered as 200 & 201. If you were on deck 6 then you had the the same type of cabin but more mid-ships. They are/were great cabins, weren't they? Peter loved them as he could just step out the door to his "private" verandah and have a cigar & didn't have to go all the way down to the pool deck.

Interesting to see the new bedding, etc. What Thomson calls a Suite, HAL called an A cabin, which was the top category.

Diane

Forgot - no TV or mini bar in the "old" days.

[ 12-29-2006: Message edited by: sympatico ]


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posted 12-29-2006 08:36 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think lots of people asume that a product that is offered for a cheap price is going to be bad. As you have just found out that is not always true. The cabins actually look pretty comfortible. Glad you had a good cruise.
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gaz hants
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posted 12-30-2006 06:27 PM      Profile for gaz hants   Email gaz hants   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
interested to know about tours on this one.

seems to me that to get the best of the area you would have to spend most of your cruise on a coach.

how many did you do malcolm? how expensive?

is it possible to 'do your own tours' as when i last went to egypt they weren't very keen on us leaving luxor?


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-30-2006 07:22 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Gaz, I was in Egypt last Christmas to. The best was to see Egypt afloat is This Way.

The Thomson 'Red Sea Magic' is a pretty unique (odd?) cruise. There was no other cruise ship operating in that area. The ports of call are all ugly docks, and the ship overnights twice, so apart form one sea day, she does not really cruise much! Interestingly there were to choice of port to board – so passengers joined and disembarked on both Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Coach excursions were essential - it would be difficult to do them by taxi. I went to the Ancient city of Petra (Jordan) an hour bus ride each way and Cairo (Pyramids and Museum) which was a two hour ride each way. I also went on a half day shopping trip to Hugada. My excursions were spaced out with a day onboard, in between.

The other big excursion was to Luxor (Valley of the kings and karnac temple) which was a three hour coach ride away. I saw them in 2005, so I gave it a miss. The prices of the full day excursions were around £70 (which did include a good lunch).

Many people were on the cruise because it was a very good price and a Christmas celebration. The ship was the destination for many. I don't suppose so many people did all three full-day excursions as they were very long, tiring and not exactly cheap. Thomson offered a cheap additional week in Sham El Sheik, so many people did this after the cruise.

So a strange way to see some of Egypt's highlights, but very enjoyable. You can do it for about £300-350 in January, inc flight, no tips required!

See:
Thomson Web Site

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gaz hants
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posted 12-30-2006 07:28 PM      Profile for gaz hants   Email gaz hants   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thanks so much for all the info malcolm.
having been on land based holidays to both egypt and jordan, i thought this cruise would be a good way of revisiting both the pyramids and petra.

after your positive comments, it would still be a choice for me.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 12-30-2006 07:33 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gaz hants:
..i thought this cruise would be a good way of revisiting both the pyramids and petra.

It was, as long as you appreciate they never really give you enough time at the sights, even on full day excursion. I regarded it as a cruise (the main course) with Egypt as a 'side dish'. You are unlikely to find a better value cruise. (The delux cabins are nice, especially if they are on 'offer').

The Thomson excusions and prices are HERE if you click on each port.

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posted 01-01-2007 04:53 PM      Profile for glynn   Email glynn   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm, My mother was on the Celebration the week leading up to christmas. They thoroughly enjoyed the cruise and the ship, so much so that they want to go on her again, or one of the others in the fleet. She also travelled with me and my family in Oct on RCi legend (which I posted about) and she recently cruised on NCL's Jewel. The opinion of my mother and her husband is that this Thomson ship outclassed both NCL & RCi to such an extent that she actually enjoyed the holiday. They got talking with other passengers, some of whom cruised QM2 and other cunard, and even they said the celebration was better ie better food, better entertainment, happier staff and a more friendly, happier feel to the cruise, and for a lot less than they previously paid !. makes you think doesn't it.

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posted 01-06-2007 05:07 PM      Profile for Dave the Wave   Email Dave the Wave   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is great to see the Destiny ( Old Song of America ) still sailing. I enjoyed 7 nights on her during my ill-fated honeymoon in 1990. It appears the cabins numbers remain the same. I remember well my cabin 2032 all the way forward.

See Here - use magnifying glass to enlarge image

and the even smaller than Sovereign inside cabin we had.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-06-2007 05:17 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why ill-fated, Dave?
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posted 01-07-2007 09:22 AM      Profile for Dave the Wave   Email Dave the Wave   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm,

It is just that all that money spent on wedding and honeymoon went to waste. After 12 years I had to kick her out. But now I enjoy cruising twice a year and have alot more fun with out the constant nagging, "don't you think you have had enough to drink?"


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-07-2007 09:27 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave the Wave:
But now I enjoy cruising twice a year and have alot more fun with out the constant nagging, "don't you think you have had enough to drink?"

Sorry to hear that Dave, but at least you got your priorities right; drinking and cruising!

(I sent you a private message - see 'My Profile')


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