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Frosty 4
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posted 08-16-2006 02:51 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was wondering if any of our Cruise Talkers own any cruise line stock? Right now RCI looks like a good buy with low risk and very high return.
Just wondering if I should take the plunge$$$ (NO,not off the balcony!!!!)
Frosty 4

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Patsy
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posted 08-16-2006 03:37 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a good chance of getting low returns or losing everything. My mum had stocks for 30 years and when she asked for a statement of their worth it was only £9000 despite a significant investment all those years ago. So she cashed them in because it wasn't the old age nest egg she'd hoped.
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Maasdam
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posted 08-16-2006 04:02 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some of us are starting a whole new cruise line something to do with Maya and Mexico Sadly they have to look fore a nother ship. The propose one is now beached (sadly)

Greetings Ben.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 08-16-2006 04:12 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's still hope.

I have a plan to turn the Blue lady into a Hotel on Alang Beach. It will be an ideal place for ship spotters to come, stay and view endangered species.


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JP
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posted 08-16-2006 05:42 PM      Profile for JP     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Remember the onboard credits that shareholders receive!
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Jekyll
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posted 08-17-2006 05:08 PM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A forum member inadvertantly started a new topic - and asked if there was a benefit to owning shares in a cruise line - this was my response. Am posting it here as they have asked the moderator to delete the stated topic:

When Cunard was owned by Trafalgar House there was a discount for shareholders. Keep in mind at that time (up to 1990) Cunard was almost always sold at brochure rate - so there was a benefit. The way the market is today, I would suspeect you wouldn't save ANY money off the price of a cruise as those discounts are usually off FULL brochure rate and exclusive of other offers.

You're probably best to work with a good agent to find the best promotion out there.


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Joe1690
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posted 08-18-2006 12:50 AM      Profile for Joe1690     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With Royal Carribbean, at least, speaking from experience, the shareholder credit is $200 for sailings of 9 nights or longer, $100 for 7 or 8 nights and $50 for less then 7 nights as an onboard credit. I recently purchased the stock and sailed and was able to use my onboard credit with their happy hour specials. So the shareholder credit is not limited to full fares only. It can be used with any fares excluding interline rates, and travel agent rates and perhaps a few other special rates that aren't usually available to the general public. Also, the shareholder credit is combinable with onboard credit earned from booking a cruise while onboard through the loyalty ambassador, as well as other coupons you may have like $50 off coupons etc. Also, it is combinable with the platinum, diamond, and diamond plus credits available when booking a balcony or higher. You should only by the stock if you are willing to possibly lose money since nothing is gauranteed. Analysts have now dropped the target price on RCL from $36 to about $27 per share. Also, the shareholder credit is only available through 2007 at this point although it is likely they will extend it as they have in the past. For me it was worth it since I travel usually 1 or 2 times per year on Royal Carribbean or Celebrity. Since I enjoy the company's product and feel that their stock will gain value overtime I'm not worried. With that being said, I will not purchase more than 100 shares since I tend to stick to mutual funds. Also right now the stock is paying a 15 cents per quarter dividend per share, amounting to 60 cents per share annually. So if you own 100 shares you will also get $60 per year in dividends. I don't give investment advise so take the information I have provided and decide for yourself whether it is worth it. If you travel on longer cruises and take several cruises per year the stock could easily pay for itself overtime imho.

As a side note some say that Royal Carribbean is way overpriced compared to other cruiselines. In my opinion their fares may tend to be more expensive but they run some great deals. Combine that with the perks they offer at platinum, diamond, or diamond plus level, plus onboard credit when booking onboard and the fares become much more reasonable. As an example, if you sail in a balcony or higher cabin you could get $100 for booking onboard, a $100 off as a platinum member, and $100 onboard credit for being a shareholder or save $300 off the fare on a 7 day cruise. Now if you are a diamond member and do a 9 night or longer cruise in balcony or suite you could get $200 for booking onboard, $300 for being a diamond member, and $200 onboard credit for being a shareholder or save $700 off the quoted price. That lowers the fare by $350 per person based on double occupancy. Combine that with some of the great resident specials, or senior rates they offer on select sailings and you could quite possibly be saving in the neighborhood of 25-50% off those special fares.


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steeplechase
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posted 08-18-2006 06:57 AM      Profile for steeplechase   Author's Homepage   Email steeplechase   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have done real well I own 1500 shares of Commodore Holdings. They are worth .01 but are still real stock that I can sell.
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PamM
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posted 08-18-2006 08:23 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by steeplechase:
They are worth .01 but are still real stock that I can sell.

Assuming you or a broker are able to find someone willing to buy them. I think perhaps any certificate still held may look better framed on the wall

I have airline shares which are a big benefit, but no cruise line ones.

Pam


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Frank X. Prudent
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posted 08-28-2006 04:45 PM      Profile for Frank X. Prudent   Email Frank X. Prudent   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It gives me great pleasure to look at my Classic American Voyages stock certificate on the wall. Although I must admit, that's one piece of artwork in my collection that has decreased significantly in value!
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