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Linerrich
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posted 04-18-2006 07:40 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An article in today's Miami Herald discusses Princess Cruises' beefing up of fire prevention measures, as well as explaining what Oceania Cruises is doing:

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-18-2006 08:34 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
''I don't think people anticipated that a fire starting outside would be able to sustain itself and involve as much of the vessel as it did,'' said George Zeitler, who oversees fire-safety inspections for the U.S. Coast Guard in South Florida.

(Taken from the above link)

Interesting. Maybe the present SOLAS rule s do not go far enough?


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posted 04-18-2006 08:40 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Star Princess fire will address two major issues:

1. Smoking will be banned 100 percent on cruise ships regardless of where it is.
2. A redesign of balconies so that they become part of the ships fire protection system.

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Cambodge
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posted 04-19-2006 07:32 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Were not the "R" ships, all of them, originally non-smoking ships? And was not this one reason for the failure of the line?

Or is my recollection incorrect?


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Carlos Fernandez
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posted 04-21-2006 10:33 AM      Profile for Carlos Fernandez   Author's Homepage   Email Carlos Fernandez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I read the article too, there was another article today mentioning the same thing. Fire safety in cruise ships is great, the only problem are the people who smoke carelesslly, and throw cigarettes overboard and due to the air might land back in the ship. Cameras will cost too much to install in all balconies, plus, it is imposible for someone to be constantly be checking 500+ cameras at the same time. Some smokers will not go on a cruise ship that doesn't let them smoke. If there could be a way to balance the situation. It's like people who get drunk, throw themselves overboard and then blame it on the cruise line, come on, who is at fault.
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posted 04-23-2006 11:30 PM      Profile for Joe99     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The article still does not address what materials were out there to burn so violently. Seems that they are avoiding the subject of rapidly burning materials inside and out.

I don’t think they will try to ban smoking, at least not in the near future. Carnival tried it with just one ship out of their entire fleet and it did not work. They could not fill the ship and ended up moving it to the other coast and making it a smoking ship again.


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Ernst
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posted 04-23-2006 11:33 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Joe99:
The article still does not address what materials were out there to burn so violently. Seems that they are avoiding the subject of rapidly burning materials inside and out.
[...]

I do not think so - this are only first measures to react to the incident - more profound consequences can only follow a proper investigation - and I guess the results of this investigation will only be available in some months.


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posted 04-24-2006 12:16 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Joe99 wrote:
The article still does not address what materials were out there to burn so violently...

Even if they eliminate all flammable materials you'd still have something that will burn very slowly, and what about flammable things left inadvertantly by passengers on balconies?

quote:
...I don’t think they will try to ban smoking, at least not in the near future...

As Carlos Fernandez said in a previous post it is those smoking carelessly who are the problem. This issue has to be addressed somehow or the next time we may have an incident with far worse consequences.

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posted 04-24-2006 10:45 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bulbousbow:
1. Smoking will be banned 100 percent on cruise ships regardless of where it is.

Never! Smokers would not cruise and that would represent a loss of income.

You can't really stop all people being careless, therefore as you have said the balconies now need to be considered a major fire risk and be built as such.


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