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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 09-05-2005 01:51 AM

quote:
Possible new ship for easyCruise
September 5, 2005

Owner of easyCruise, Stelios Haji-Ioannou has announced he is looking to order at least one new build ship.
He has stated he believes it will be possible to build a new no frills ship at around 60 per cent of the cost currently projected for construction of a new ship.
A number of shipyards allegedly have already expressed interest in the idea.
Reed Business Information

Looks like Stelios is considering custom-built cruise ships. Any ideas out there on what capacity these will be?

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 09-05-2005 02:34 AM

Thanks for the news bit bulbousbow. I think this/these newbuild(s) will be bigger than the current ship and obviously have a higher capacity and probably more "ship like" rather than "yacht like".

I wonder if the staterooms will have windows

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 09-05-2005 02:13 PM

He's optimistic.

I can see EasyCruise making a modest profit, but I would not have expected the returns to pay for a newbuild.

Carnival beware!

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 09-05-2005 03:30 PM

I do not think that easycruise is a direct competitor to Carnival. Like youth hostels or very simple hotels/accomodations are not in competition with resorts easycruise will not be in direct competition to Carnival - it is finally broadening the variety of possibilites to travel by ship. (which is good!)

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 09-05-2005 04:08 PM

I saw someone comment in one of the ferry groups that perhaps easyCruise may be interested in Silja Opera

I assumed it was a joke!

Pam

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 09-05-2005 04:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
I do not think that easycruise is a direct competitor to Carnival.

I agree. But interestingly Carnival will not normally sell any of its various brands second-hand ships to potential competitors. They see nearly everyone as a threat.

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 09-05-2005 09:10 PM

quote:
Malcolm wrote:
I agree. But interestingly Carnival will not normally sell any of its various brands second-hand ships to potential competitors. They see nearly everyone as a threat.

...and rightly so. In business you need to be ruthless - no favours to the opposition.

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bulbousbow
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Member # 4440

posted 09-05-2005 11:12 PM

Stelios Haji-Ioannou is very ambitious, there are rumours he wants eight new ships for easyCruise and that he has already had contact with Chantiers de l'Atlantique and Meyer Werft.

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Matts
First Class Passenger
Member # 4120

posted 09-06-2005 07:28 AM

Despite my previous experience on easyCruiseOne, i think I'd probably try Two just to see what has changed. Easy brands are generally very good at adapting their business and operation to what works or doesn't. For round two, the operation of easyOne would suggest to me that they could get away with an even greater proportion of accom to public space. For that reason I reckon that the suggested ferries are wrong - too much public room. Why have onboard spaces when the operation is designed so that noone is onboard?

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 09-06-2005 08:11 AM

How large could an easycruise vessel be? I don not really see a 2000 passengers vessel for this concept - also an easycruise vessel with virtually no public rooms can be much smaller for the same number of passengers compared to a conventional vessel.
So I guess the ferries in question would be too big to be converted to ships like the first vessel (imagine all car decks and most public spaces filled with cabins - they would carry quite a lot of people!) - but of course there is the option to more or less leave them as they are and operate them in a more conventional way. (=more public space)

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Meldrew of the Seas
First Class Passenger
Member # 5298

posted 09-15-2005 04:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
I would not have expected the returns to pay for a newbuild.

Don't forget, just after 9/11, when the major airlines were shedding aircraft and crew, easyJet bought 20-odd NEW 737s from Boeing.

What Stelios touches may not turn to Gold, but Orange is close!

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 09-15-2005 10:03 PM

quote:
Meldrew of the Seas wrote:
What Stelios touches may not turn to Gold, but Orange is close!

As long as they don't turn into Lemon(s).

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Meldrew of the Seas
First Class Passenger
Member # 5298

posted 09-22-2005 07:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bulbousbow:
As long as they don't turn into Lemon(s).
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Good one, Mate!

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