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Tom Burke
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posted 07-06-2005 06:02 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's getting to be an Orange world! easyCruise have announced their winter itineraries out of Barbados for their winter. In fact, and in keeping with the summer schedules along the French & Italian rivieras, passengers can join or leave the ship at multiple locations. The itinerary is: Barbados (Sat/Sun); St Vincent (Mon); Martinique (Tues); The Grenadines (Wed); Grenada (Thur); and St Lucia Fri).

Note the two-day stop at Barbados. Apparently this is because there are lots of flights into Barbados at weekends.

If I had booked it today, I could have had one of the (in)famous orange no-window cabins for - wait for it - £126 for 7 nights in January, for two people. Yup, £126 total.....


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Matts
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posted 07-06-2005 12:07 PM      Profile for Matts     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This will be an interesting one to watch. With Nice etc there were loads of short cheap flights to enable Europeans to join the ship. Non Europeans I met on board generally did so as part of a longer vacation. However getting to the Caribbean is an altogether more expensive option and although they will call at 3 major air gateways (St Lucia, Martinique, Barbados) the flights to all of them from europe are not cheap. One can easily expect to pay 300GB Pounds minimum for such a flight. Are the customers really going to want to stump up so much for the orange experience?
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-06-2005 12:33 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Matts:
Are the customers really going to want to stump up so much for the orange experience?

Is stelios aiming at Europeans for this juant? Maybe American's will find it attractive?

If easycruise 'package' international flights with the cruise, the price may still look attractive?

Where's your review Matts?

[ 07-06-2005: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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Linerrich
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posted 07-06-2005 12:51 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

Is stelious aiming at Europeans for this juant? Maybe American's will find it attractive?

[ 07-06-2005: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


Americans will not find flights to and from the Caribbean islands to be very cheap--even from Miami, it can easily be $400 or more in and out of these ports of call, not to mention how much more from various US cities farther North or West! I think if someone is willing and able to spend money on flights, they will select a more upscale cruise, offering more on-board amenities.

Rich


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PamM
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posted 07-06-2005 12:53 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Matts:
One can easily expect to pay 300GB Pounds minimum for such a flight. Are the customers really going to want to stump up so much for the orange experience?

They probably won't go just for the "Orange Experience", but may well use the orange ship to island hop, or combine it with a week on Barbados or one of the other islands. Tom's price is also valid for Christmas week, a bargain really if you consider it as inter island accommodation rather than a 'cruise'. Where can one book a room for £18 a night for 2 anywhere, let alone in the Caribbean?

Pam


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-06-2005 03:04 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Stelios seems to know what he is doing...so far, anyway.

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posted 07-06-2005 04:02 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And not to forget that we talk about a very, very small ship. It`s not a Voyager Class ship he has to fill.
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bulbousbow
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posted 07-07-2005 01:54 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is easyCruise's press release.

quote:
easyCruise Announces the Launch of Its 2005-2006 Caribbean Cruise Program
July 5, 2005

LONDON -- easyCruise, a recent venture of Stelios Haji-Ioannou (see www.stelios.com), the serial entrepreneur and founder of the easyGroup of companies (see www.easy.com) including easyJet PLC (Europe's leading low-cost airline listed on the London Stock Exchange) has announced its entry into the winter 2005-2006 Caribbean cruise season with its ship, easyCruiseOne.

The easyCruise web site (www.easycruise.com) is now selling Caribbean cruises beginning November 12, 2005, until April 26, 2006, with prices beginning at $16.20 USD per person per night for a cabin, based on two people sharing. Ports of call include: Bridgetown in Barbados (Saturday and Sunday), Kingstown in St. Vincent (Monday), Fort de France in Martinique (Tuesday), Bequia in The Grenadines (Wednesday), St George's in Grenada (Thursday) and Castries in St. Lucia (Friday). Barbados, Martinique, Grenada and St. Lucia all have international airports with a selection of direct flights from the U.S., London, Paris and other destinations.

easyCruise offers travelers a unique "luxe for less" opportunity to visit enticing destinations via flexible one-week itineraries that allow cruisers to embark and depart at any port along the route, provided they stay onboard for at least two nights. During the Caribbean season, easyCruiseOne will remain in Barbados for two days and nights to enable passengers to accommodate preferred flight arrangements.

easyCruiseOne's inaugural summer itinerary in the French and Italian Rivieras concludes October 15, 2005, with the ship then spending a week at the MIPCOM TV festival in Cannes. The ship will then sail to the Caribbean to begin its winter itinerary.

The current and first summer season for easyCruise is proving very encouraging for the company. More than 90 different nationalities have already booked cabins on easyCruiseOne and the average age of easyCruise passengers is 33 years old, more than 20 years younger than the current industry average. Attracting younger consumers to easyCruise has been done through effective innovation. Contrary to the norm, easyCruiseOne stays in port every night so that passengers can hit the town and enjoy the nightlife. In addition, passengers can join the cruise where and when they want, subject to a two-night minimum, with a 14-night maximum stay.

This same flexible formula will apply to easyCruiseOne in the Caribbean, although passengers will be required to be back on board by midnight, as nightlife in the Caribbean tends to both start and finish earlier than in the Mediterranean. In the Caribbean, easyCruiseOne will sail sometime after midnight, and arrive in port at approximately 10:00 a.m. (The ship's current schedule in the Mediterranean is to sail after 4:00 a.m. and arrive in port at approximately 1:00 p.m.) In both the Caribbean and the Mediterranean, once the ship has arrived in port, passengers are free to stay on board and enjoy the facilities, or to go ashore.

Expansion plans beyond easyCruiseOne

Another result of an encouraging first season is that easyCruise is already investigating the best way to add a second ship to the fleet -- easyCruiseTwo -- for Greek island cruising during the summer 2006 or 2007 cruise season. Either an existing vessel would have to be acquired, or a purpose-built ship would need to be constructed. Destinations in Greece under consideration include: Athens (Friday), Mykonos (Saturday), Patmos (Sunday), Rhodes (Monday), Heraklion (Tuesday), Hania (Wednesday) and Milos (Thursday). easyCruiseTwo could then head to the Arabian Gulf for the winter season; the destinations being discussed are Dubai and the United Arab Emirates.

For more information, high resolution images and to book cruises for the Caribbean or the French and Italian Rivieras, please visit www.easyCruise.com.

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Tom Burke
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posted 07-07-2005 04:44 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
However getting to the Caribbean is an altogether more expensive option and although they will call at 3 major air gateways (St Lucia, Martinique, Barbados) the flights to all of them from europe are not cheap. One can easily expect to pay 300GB Pounds minimum for such a flight. Are the customers really going to want to stump up so much for the orange experience?

Silly us. We'e all forgeting something - Stelios owns an airline!

If easyJet wanted to break into long-haul aviation then flights to the Caribbean to link with easyCruise1 departures would be an excellent peg to hang it on.


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Johan C
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posted 07-07-2005 07:51 AM      Profile for Johan C   Email Johan C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At this moment easyjet has B737's and A319.
These aircrafts are not suitable for transatlantic flights they have fuel for a 4-5 hours flight.

Of course Stelios could lease an aircraft for this purpose somewhere

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Tom Burke
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posted 07-07-2005 08:41 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
These aircrafts are not suitable for transatlantic flights they have fuel for a 4-5 hours flight.

Of course Stelios could lease an aircraft for this purpose somewhere


Indeed. At the moment the longest flight easyJet do is London - Athens, which is approaching 4 hours or so. So doing transatlantic flights would be a big step forward for easyJet, or indeed any of the no-frills airlines.

But as I say, moving passengers to link with easyCruise departures would be a very good peg on which to hang a move into long-haul traffic. And I'm sure an older 747 could be leased pretty cheaply, and easyJet wouldn't have much trouble getting one - they're hardly a startup. Of course, there would be significant crew training issues if they used their own people, so perhaps they would do a complete 'plane + people' lease.


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PamM
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posted 07-07-2005 08:58 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Stelios' role on the board of easyJet is purely as a non-executive director, but he still holds around 40% of the shares [with his family]. I don't think long haul and "no frills" really go together. However I could see him perhaps coming to an agreement with another operator. VS, Britannia?

Pam


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posted 08-05-2005 02:27 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Consider impact of cruise line
Adrian Loveridge
August 2, 2005

I wonder if our regional tourism policymakers have even considered the potential ramifications of the November launch of EasyCruise, the budget cruise ship line, not just on the established cruise companies but also on regional airlines.

The proposed itinerary includes Barbados (two nights), St. Vincent, St. Lucia, Grenada, Martinique and the Grenadines.

All bookings are subject to a minimum of two nights at a retail cost of £9 (or about US$16) per person based on two sharing a cabin including port taxes.

So, for instance, if passengers wanted to travel from Grenada to Barbados the cost would be US$16 including two nights accommodation.

With Caribbean governments now charging up to US$35 per person for airport departure taxes plus all the additional add-ons associated with intra-regional air travel like fuel surcharges, security and handling fees, VAT or other forms of sales taxes, airport enhancement fees etc, it looks likely many price conscious travellers will take a much lower cost option with EasyCruise.

And I wonder how it will affect the traditional land-based accommodation providers who simply cannot match an overnight hotel cost of US$9 per person?

More new and larger cruise ships are about to enter service and with the Caribbean still being the largest area of operation, it seems inevitable there will some overcapacity in the next year or two.

Combined with the low-cost concept of EasyCruise, which will find its own niche and clientele, the secondary effect will be to push prices of traditional cruises down.

Once again, this will put further pressure on land-based tourism which is already reeling from dramatic increase in operational costs over the last year.

Of course the positive effect will be to allow Caribbean people to move inexpensively between certain islands and avoid all the inhibitive costs now linked to travelling relatively short distances by air. Quite, how this will affect our already struggling regional airlines, its hard to predict.

The consumer is now faced with a choice of travelling from one island to another, albeit at a much slower pace for US$16 or taking the hopefully quicker flight option for US$200 plus.

One thing for sure, neither the established cruise or current regional airline industry is ever going to be totally the same after November.

Barbados Advocate


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MOORHOUSE
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One thing I have thought about with easyCruise is muster drills.

Since each day has new passengers, will it need to be repeated every day or is it exempt as its kinda a ferry?


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Don't know if I want to be on Easycruise One when the 747 load of passengers boards might be a little cramped. Does anyone know if they are selling the reposioning cruise that would be a long boring cruise bet it is cheap. Hot dogs and hamburgers the whole crossing! Maybe market it to single wide trailer park people the cabins are about the same size and thickness.
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