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Cunard has not announced a Queen Anne, however, on my 17-day voyager on the QM2, Pamela Conover (President of Cunard) personally told me that there will be another ship, however, no contract has been signed and no order has been placed. Also, on the last night of the cruise, the cruise director said, "We hope to see you onboard another Cunard ship in the future, whether it is the QE2, QM2, QV, or Queen Anne..." and then he told us a little about it (improved version of QM2, maybe smaller). It is still a rumor, because there have been no official press statements. However, the President of Cunard and the cruise director of the greatest ship ever to exist have both verified that there will indeed be another ship.

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Queen Anne sounds a little silly.

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Why? Queen Anne was the last monarch of the Stuart dynasty and the fifth of England's seven (to date) Queens. It's a legitimate choice. Also, the Queen Anne suite was one of the original penthouse suites on QE2, so the name already has a Cunard tradition.

Now Queen Jane would have been a bit silly, given that she reigned for only 9 days before being deposed and replaced by "Bloody" Mary (Henry VIII's oldest daughter).

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Originally posted by Keitaro:

Names they should use:
1. Queen Caronia
2. Queen Antonia

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If they are going to use "Queen" names, they should be legitmate names and not phony ones a la Princess Cruises (e.g. Princess Carla, Princess Italia).

Brian

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Originally posted by Brian_O:

If they are going to use "Queen" names, they should be legitmate names and not phony ones a la Princess Cruises (e.g. Princess Carla, Princess Italia).

Brian

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You may say buth she was not a ranging Queen. So Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth also not.

The QE2 was not named after Elizabeth the second buth after the first ship the QE off 1940. The QM2 was named after the Queen Mary off 1936

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On my recent QM2 cruise, the Cruise director said at the end of the a show, something like "Cunard will be building another QM2".

Personally, I do not regard him as a reliable souce. I doubt if he has a direct line to Pamela Conover?

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Originally posted by Brian_O:

If they are going to use "Queen" names, they should be legitmate names and not phony ones a la Princess Cruises (e.g. Princess Carla, Princess Italia).

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Originally posted by Keitaro:
Brian, both ANTONIA and CARONIA are names of Cunard's former and current ships.

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But they are not the names of British Queens, regnant or consort. The names would be artificial Queens rather than the names of real historical women.

The 7 Queens Regnant of England were/are, in chronological order: Jane, Mary, Elizabeth, Mary II, Anne, Victoria and Elizabeth II. Of these only Victoria has had a Cunard ship named after her. However, naming a ship after either of the Mary's or Elizabeth's at this time would be confusing, hence the name Anne. Of course the list of Queens Consort is much longer.

QM and QE were named after the Queens Consort to George V and George VI respectively. Both were real women. QE2 and QM2 are named after their like-named predecessors in the Cunard fleet which were named after real women, so the connection to the monarchy is there, albeit indirectly.

The suggestion of Queen Alexandra, Queen Consort to Edward VII is also a good one. Besides being the mother of George V, she was also an aunt of Nicholas II of Russia, but we won't hold that against her.

If you want a "Queen" named after both a former Cunard ship and a former English Queen, Queen Berengaria would fit the bill since she was Queen Consort to Richard the Lionheart.

The list of legitimate real names to choose from is long enough without resorting to manufacturing artificial ones.

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Originally posted by Brian_O:

The 7 Queens Regnant of England were/are, in chronological order: Jane, Mary, Elizabeth, Mary II, Anne, Victoria and Elizabeth II. Of these only Victoria has had a Cunard ship named after her. However, naming a ship after either of the Mary's or Elizabeth's at this time would be confusing, hence the name Anne. Of course the list of Queens Consort is much longer.

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so wait, there was a ship named Queen Victoria already, or am I just reading this in correctly? b/c then wouldn't it really be QV2?

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Originally posted by Beezo:

so wait, there was a ship named Queen Victoria already, or am I just reading this in correctly? b/c then wouldn't it really be QV2?

~Brian

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No. There has not as yet been a Queen Victoria in the Cunard fleet, but the name has been assigned (and reaasigned) to Cunard's next ship coming out of the Fincantieri yards. That will be the first Cunarder named after a British Monarch (as opposed to a Queen Consort).

Brian

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Cunard did'nt have a 'Queen' liner for their first 100 years or so.

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So what? Cunard seem to have decided to name all their future ships after queens of England. That is their perogative, not ours. That being the case, the choice of the name Queen Anne is quite appropriate.

Needless to say, the names Queen Jackie and Queen Nancy do not fit the bill and are simply silly suggestions made in jest, n'est-ce pas?

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Originally posted by RANGERVR6178:
Wayne, I dont like whoever posted that idea.

But I guess since he was told from Pamela, he IS RIGHT!!!

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He claims that Pamela Conover told him. That doesn't make it true.

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Originally posted by Brian_O:

So what? Cunard seem to have decided to name all their future ships after queens of England. That is their perogative, not ours.
Brian

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Originally posted by Ðraikar:
Its lame to make a fleet that looks the same with no identity, like some stupid clone war... Why is Carnival Cruise or Royal Caribbean International hated when they make copy's of ships but if Cunard dose, its like a blessed fart... It smells bad but because Cunard did it well its ok !?!

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What has this to do with the proposed name? "Cloning" is a separate issue and not even relevant in this case since the report suggests that Queen Anne will be similar to QM2 (which at the moment is one of a kind) rather than another Vista-class "every fleet should have one or two" clone. Identical/similar ships in the same fleet, but different from those in other fleets, used to be called sister ships.

Do not forget the Cunard Countess / Princess twins, the Cunard Crown Twins, the Saxonia twins... but that said, the original Queens were sisters, not twins, and lusitania and Mauretania had distinct differences. You can have the same floorplan with different features externally just as you can have different floorplans with the same features externally.