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Patrick Newell
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posted 02-11-2004 03:09 PM      Profile for Patrick Newell   Email Patrick Newell   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WARNING!!!! Read this carefully before you book!

Day One: Embarkation – Boarded ship at approximately 2 PM. At the embarkation picture area we requested that our picture be taken with our friends. We were told “No” even though we saw embarkation pictures with 3 – 5 guests in the photo library. We were also told we could not use our personal camera either to record the event with our friends. We were later told by the photography crew that our embarkation pictures were lost along with about 25 others due to a camera malfunction. Upon arrival in our cabin #12031 we noticed that both 110V electrical outlets at the dressing area did not have plates on them and the wires were dangerously exposed. In addition, the door covering the mini-bar was falling off. We noted these deficiencies to our Cabin Stewart, Alex Noel. He assured us that these items would be seen too and corrected shortly. Upon disembarking the ship the items still had not been attended to. We also noticed that although our friends in the adjoining cabin had been given robes, however, we did not receive any in our cabin. Upon questioning Alex, he made us feel that we may have misplaced or taken the robes. When he did bring us two, they were shrunken, frayed, and too small for even a child to wear. The air conditioning system in the room consistently failed to bring the temperature down to an acceptable level. We brought these issues to the attention of Alex, once again to no avail. It operated in the same condition upon our disembarkation. We finally left port in Fort Lauderdale about 2 1/5 hours late. We were informed by a placard in our cabin that we were assigned to table #75 in the L’Campo dining room at 1st seating which was advertised in the brochure as 7:00 PM but turned out to be 6:00 PM. Table #75 turned out to be two tables seating two each next to each other. Our other friends we were cruising with had been seated at separate tables. We went to speak with the Maitre‘d, Leonardo Moccia regarding this error and were reassigned temporarily to Table #80 at 2nd seating which had now been changed to 8:00 PM from 8:40 PM as the brochure indicated. At dinner that night we were assigned to a waiter by the name of Marcella. Upon sitting down at the table, he
“threw” the menus down in front of us, never smiled, failed to introduce himself, and demanded that we make all of our dinner selections including desert on the spot. When the beef entrée arrived it looked like the bottom of an old shoe although we had ordered them rare. He begrudgingly took back the entrées in a huff and replaced them with something that looked somewhat better but now had the consistency of an old shoe with vegetables that looked like they were “Jolly Green Giant” frozen rejects. We could not get tea at dinner, only water which was served in a wine glass without ice. Needless to say dinner was ruined and our appetites quickly disappeared. Our travel agent had requested a seating with the waiter Ciccio, all together. In addition, my wife is allergic to tomatoes and several other vegetables. A special food request was put in by our travel agent, but both requests were not honored by MSC staff.

Day Two: At Sea – We paid a visit to the Maite‘d once again to get reassigned to a table with Ciccio so we could all experience our lunches and dinners together. The Maitre‘d was outraged at us and others trying the change their seating arrangements. He outwardly made disparaging remarks about Americans and vowed he would never sail with Americans again. He started swearing in Italian (I understand some) and kept up his negative remarks against Americans. His assistant finally changed our tables. However, the food once again proved to be of extremely poor quality although the service had improved. On another note, all beverages such as soft drinks, lemonade, etc. with the exception of water, tea, and coffee needed to be purchased at additional cost. We also found out that lunch is “open seating” and we cannot enjoy it together at an assigned table. This was not the way the cruise brochure depicted it. We were also surprised upon visiting the “Coffee Corner” that we were charged for our coffees as other ships we had sailed on in the past, these were always included. Activities on board were sorely lacking. No bands around the pool, no music, and a lot of dull entertainment. All lounge chairs, tables, etc. were wrapped up and put away by 5:30 PM and the pool/Jacuzzi facilities were then unavailable. The pizza area by the pool was never open during the duration of the cruise. We also realized at this time that the ship was not taking the navigation itinerary as shown in the brochure. The ship rather than going around Cuba to the West took the Windward Passage to the east. We especially booked our cabins on
the port side to take advantage of the passage to the west around Cuba. This did not happen.

Day Three: Montego Bay – We arrived in Montego Bay 1 hour late, however, by the
time we made it ashore we were over 2 hours late. We had reserved a car for the 12:00 PM arrival so we could tour on our own. We were told that we would be Tendered to port although the itinerary in the brochure never did not suggest this method of debarkation and there were ample docking facilities available for our ship. A Carnival cruise ship was docked at the port. Reasons for not docking at the port were not given and the crew members asked did not now why. We went out on the first tender, thanks to Betty at Reception, although we were told that excursions would go first. As we arrived at the dock the tender pilot was unable to secure the vessel. We bounced around in the docking area, almost turning over once, as the locals laughed at us as we tried to land. The tender pilot came around time and time again until finally several strong locals tied him up. No disembarkation photos were taken as experienced on other ships. Since we had only a 7 hour time slot in port and 2 ½ hours were now gone, our day in Jamaica was ruined. We only had the time to visit one attraction before we had to reboard the vessel. Although we had to be on board by 7:00 PM, we did not leave port until 9:30 PM since the ship lost several passengers and their travel agent. Apparently they left the ship in Jamaica, refusing to return due to their negative experience on board.

Day Four: At Sea – Once again the food was poor. The food at the buffet was bordering on uneatable. The joke on board was that whatever you didn’t eat the night before would appear at the buffet the next day, and it did. Once again, the activities on board were the poorest we have ever experienced, napkin folding, learn to speak Italian, etc. Where was the wine tasting and the art shows we experienced on other cruises? Where were the bands around the pool, the excitement of it, and all the games on deck? Nothing at all on this ship!

Day Five: Cartegena – We disembarked and proceeded on a tour of the city booked through MSC. There were no disembarkation photos taken as we had experienced on other cruises. We were promptly advised by our tour guide that Cartegena is not visited by many cruise ships lately because of the danger to Americans. As a matter of fact we were told that it has become “a very dangerous kidnapping area” and we must stay close to our tour. My wife was terrified upon learning this and did not enjoy her time on shore. She counted the minutes until the tour was over. These security matters were never explained to us in the MSC brochures or accompanying information. Once again the food was very poor and the buffet got worse (if that was possible). All juices are canned, not fresh; everything on the buffet seems very old and recycled.

Day Six: San Blas Islands – Tendered to shore to Provenir Island where the local Kuna Indians sell their “molas”. No disembarkation photos once again. On a high point, this was this first location that the ship set out water and juices for
passengers. The experience here left a lot to offer. No tour guides from the ship to help us, dumped us off on an island where we were left to fare for ourselves. Food on board is continues to be the worse we have ever experienced on any cruise ship. Juices are canned, vegetables seem frozen and yesterday’s food becomes today’s salad.

Day Seven: Panama Canal – We are told that we can not set foot on Panamanian soil unless we signed up for an excursion. No mention of this in the brochure. Since we booked an excursion to the Changres River, our ability to set foot on land was guaranteed at this point. However, all others had to pay $32 to go ashore. We were later informed that we also paid the $32 each as it was included in the excursion we took. We were at informed at booking the cruise that all port charges were included. If so, why were we charged an additional $32 each to go ashore? Again, food is absolutely terrible; nothing ever changes from the rolls to the desert. All deserts always come with a putrid green liquid on the plate that doesn’t taste like anything.

Day Eight: Puerto Limon – Once again ship is late getting into port. Brochures depict ability to travel inland to capital of San Jose. However, no tours or cabs will travel to San Jose and expect to get back to the ship in time for sailing at 5:00 PM. Trips to San Jose were advertised in the MSC brochure but no one could travel there due to the time constraints. Spend most of our time at the dock purchasing local handicrafts and other trivial items. Food hasn’t improved at all. Now we’re getting leftovers from three days ago at the buffet and at dinner.

Day Nine: At Sea – Activities at sea once again very limited. This is definitely not a “fun”
ship. It seems that MSC has purposely segregated the nationalities on board and the attitude towards Americans is not good. It seems a joke when we wanted to play miniature golf that we had to go down to Deck Six, pay a deposit of $10 to secure a ball and club to play. The hours of operation were so short that it was almost impossible to enjoy a game. Tonight was the “Buffet Magnifique” or the best buffet of the cruise. No ice sculpturing on deck. We were so disappointed having experienced the Grand Buffets on other ships. This buffet was a total “joke”. The food at the buffet and the presentation was terrible. The one ice sculpture they had already melted into a form that was unrecognizable. Food was a little bit better but not at all what we had experienced on other cruise lines.

Day Ten: At Sea – Once again, activities are extremely limited. Food at the buffet has not improved at all. Staff continues to be nasty and not very accommodating. Our cabin steward at this point has made sure he doesn’t interface with us, for what reason we do not know. Food in the dining room has become a ritual rather that an expectation of a culinary experience. This experience has set us up to never sail MSC Italian Line again. Everyone agrees that this ship will never make it in the U.S.

Day Eleven: Key West – All 972 Americans on board were compelled to gather at 6;45 AM in the Lirica Lounge to meet Immigration Officials. Arriving at 6:45 AM all available seating was taken. Passengers were pouring outside onto the decks and elevator areas. No refreshments, coffee, etc. were served. Passengers waited until approximately 8:00 AM before the Immigration Official made it on board. Passengers were told that they could board tenders for Key West beginning at 9:00 AM. At 9:00 AM all passengers were informed that the tender could not operate due to the fact that the seas were too rough. Our entire day in Key West was spent aboard the ship anchored off shore. No explanation was ever given as to why we could not dock at Key West. The brochure we relied upon to make our decision to cruise the line never alluded to a tender at Key West. There were two other cruise ships docked at Key West (RCCL) and there was ample room for another ship to dock.

Day Twelve: Fort Lauderdale – Thank GOD this experience was finally over. All of us on board have already come to the conclusion that the MSC Lirica is the “Motel Six” of cruise ships. Nothing could have been worse.

In conclusion, this ship definitely did not live up to our most conservative expectations. Our expectations were based upon the literature that MSC Lines disseminated as well as our previous cruising experience. This was definitely the ship of the dammed.


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eroller
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posted 02-11-2004 06:02 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
First post to Cruise Talk and it's this very negative review. The same was posted to r.t.c. earlier in the week. Do I detect an agenda here?

This entire review is negative. In fact I was not able to find even one positive comment. Balanced? Hardly.

Nothing is all bad, and the ship is brand new to boot. Much of a cruise is what you make of it. Sure things go wrong, but you can move on or dwell and eventually find fault with everything. You did the latter.

You talk about the crew treating you as "ugly Americans". I can only help but wonder if you were?

A frequent Cruise Talk poster also sailed on MSC LIRICA, and her comments were quite different. Makes you wonder. I realize there were problems with the ship and crew, that was obvious. Unfortunately your lack of any balance in this review makes you un-credible in my opinion. Seems like your out to get MSC.

Ernie


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Admiralmaster
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posted 02-11-2004 06:22 PM      Profile for Admiralmaster        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ernie,

You're very right!!!

I think the better reply to such a reviews is NO reply!

Patrick: if all is negative with an european cruise line, why didn't your perfect travel agent recommended you to book a perfect american cruise line?

Carles


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Jekyll
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posted 02-11-2004 06:30 PM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds like another case of someone investing in their vacation without doing their research. Could you imagine the state we'd be in if we did the same thing with our RRSPs (401K for our friends to the South).

This guy didn't even follow the usual pattern - book the cruise AND THEN come here asking our opinion about it (at least that would have given him a chance to change before getting onboard).

A fool and his money are soon parted. Better luck next time.


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WhiteStar
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posted 02-11-2004 06:44 PM      Profile for WhiteStar   Email WhiteStar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This review seems better suited in the "passengers from hell" thread. As for the ports, Columbia hasn't been a safe place in years, San Jose Costa Rica has always been a 2 - 3 hour bus ride ONE-WAY. No one gets off in Panama unless on a shore excursion, and most ships don't offer one.
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linerguy
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posted 02-11-2004 11:03 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How about "The ship was lovely but..." or "on the flip side, we really liked the..."?

I have no doubt that you didn't like the experience; I'm just wondering how many mountains you've made out of mole hills....

Negative comments are just as welcome as positive ones; but nothing is this bad.

Russ


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BermudaBoy
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posted 02-11-2004 11:26 PM      Profile for BermudaBoy   Email BermudaBoy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Newell:
All of us on board have already come to the conclusion that the MSC Lirica is the “Motel Six” of cruise ships. Nothing could have been worse.

Well at least they leave the light on for you...


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Johan C
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posted 02-12-2004 06:16 AM      Profile for Johan C   Email Johan C   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I has been said before: MSC does not cater for Americans.

I have been on US ships (RCCL; Celebrity;princess) and Euro ships ( Costa; Festival;MSC; Fred Olsen):
both have their pro's and contra's.


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RobHolland
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posted 02-12-2004 06:37 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a negative review. Too negative to be considered reliable. I receive many e-mails from American passengers who are all satisfied and love the overall quality. We'll have to wait and see when Buil -cruiseclues- Chaimless is back. He will be a good source that's for sure.
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claudio
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posted 02-12-2004 06:41 AM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
wow patrick i cant believe a whole 10 days were a complete disaster everybody knows americans arent very popularat the moment, but i doubt a whole ship would go out of thier way to make your cruise miserable.
perhaps you should watch the movie out of towners

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posted 02-12-2004 01:47 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks to me like someone needs a visit by the three ghosts of HAPPY CRUISE!!
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posted 02-12-2004 05:08 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick how many mony you would geth back from the line in a court case !!!!!!!!!!! Come one whene you are threated as this you made your complain directly to the captain off get off the ship and go back to home. So i believe your story is over reacting and i begin to think that you don't get your mony back frome the line i'm i right.
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cruisecluestoo
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posted 02-14-2004 06:46 PM      Profile for cruisecluestoo   Email cruisecluestoo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know more than half of the passengers will disagree with me, but we had a very nice cruise and so did the couple we traveled with. I guess we were just lucky to have Sebastiano as a waiter who made our cruise so much more enjoyable. He was the best we have ever had. He went beyond just waiting on us . He was a friend. I will admit this line needs some help. I wish I could just talk to someone who would listen. I think It was a build up of things that bothered most people. Key West was the last straw. We made the best of everything and had a good time. We found everyone to be very friendly and helpful except Linda the American host. She seemed to not want to be bothered with our foolish questions. Most passengers didn't realize that this was a value cruise and were expecting a lot more like Chocolates on there pillow. I loved it but did my homework before we chose this line and knew what to expect. I loved the Italian music and atmosphere. Too bad so many others hated it so much . We are working on a very extensive review.
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Aussie1
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posted 02-15-2004 09:02 PM      Profile for Aussie1   Email Aussie1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hope we're not all shooting the messenger here. While Pattrick certainly didn't have a great cruise he doesn't really sound like he has an axe to grind.
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RobHolland
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posted 02-16-2004 04:29 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Buil mailed me last week and he had an good cruise, but with some remarks. He said the company had quite some problems handling American passengers, for instance the communication with the -mainly- Italian staff was problematic. Check his review when kit's online at www.cruiseclues.com .

I also received a mail from somebody who made the Jan26 cruise as well:
HI,I JUST GOT OFF THE JAN 26 TRIP TO PANAMA.THE SHIP IS BEAUTIFUL BUT THERE ISN'T ANY ORGANIZATION.THE TRIP WAS GREAT ALSO,BUT THE FOOD WASN'T THAT GREAT.THEY HAVE ALOT TO LEARN IF THERE GOING AFTER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.I TOOK 7 OTHER PEOPLE WITH ME AND THEY ALL WERE DISAPPOINTED.


I think they will have to make many adjustments to cater for the American passengers.


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RobHolland
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posted 02-16-2004 04:31 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I now see that Diane has posted a mini review at this board as well.
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linerguy
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posted 02-16-2004 09:54 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aussie:

I don't think we're shooting the messenger. I have no doubt that the cruise wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination; and I can certainly understand his frustration.

I think what sends up the flag here is the fact that this was his first post and it's ENTIRELY negative. There were no pre-cruise posts to discuss his upcoming trip, or to get feedback or suggestions...nothing. And while he may have been a "lurker" for some time, he didn't mention it.

The fact that he hasn't rung back in to comment on comments about his review also leads me to believe that he's going from site to site, blasting off this terrible review just as a way of venting his anger.

When I read a review, I do want to read the bad as well as the good; it's lends a lot more credibility to the reviewer. But folks who do nothing but complain about EVERYTHING come across as only having sour grapes. Folks who gush over the experience are either smitten or able to overlook it's shortcomings.

Thanks.

Russ


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Islandhappy
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posted 02-20-2004 03:31 PM      Profile for Islandhappy   Email Islandhappy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was on the Jan. 26th. Lirica cruise. I really resent some of the comments made about those of us who had a great time on this cruise.
I would hope that you would not be narrow minded enough to try to make me feel bad because I had a very good trip.
Pictures, please don't make me wait in lines for pictures to be taken on these ships (as on the Holland American Line), and keep the camera out of my face during the trip.
Games - We played games on the pool deck and had a lot of fun, where were you during these times?
TV - Who goes on an expensive cruise to watch TV, not me, but then to each his own.
Entertainment on ship - The entertainment did leave alot to be desired, once you saw it, you saw it all. So instead of being unhappy about it we just went to one of the lounges to listen and dance to the music, sure were many, many people there laughing, dancing and have a good time, where were you?
Tours - We only took one tour from the ship, the others we did on our own, and may I say again, they were great! San Blas was a very small island, why in the world you would need a tour guide is beyond me and the others I discussed this with who were with me. We got on a dug-out boat, and went to the island where the natives lived, it was very interesting, again, where were you. As for the trip to Montigo, we also were on the first tender, it went in once, did not almost tip over, went back out, waited a few minutes, went in again, was successful on the second try not after several trys. I guess it is all a matter of perspective.
Italian lessons - I was so happy when I found out that they were offering this for us. We went to the lessons and had a very good time, the other people there seemed to be really enjoying themselves also, again, where were you????
Yes, it was not fun getting up early to go thru customs at 6:45, but let that ruin my trip, I DON'T THINK SO! Yes, I was disappointed when they couldn't get us to Key West, just spent the day by the pool relaxing before having to go home. SUre wasn't going to let that ruin my trip!
If you didn't have a good time on this trip, then maybe you are the one who doesn't know how to have fun, not us!
Everyone has to make their own decision, but I can only tell you that I would cruise MSC anytime, anyday, especially for the price, what a deal.
I was told the Lirica was an Italian ship, we would be offered Italian food, music and people. It is what I expected and would have been disappointed with anything else. Our service in the dining room was very good, (thanks Sebastiano). The desserts left much to be desired, the only time I have had worse was on the Holland American Ship, and Disney was just a little better. THe Lirica had THE best ice cream that I have ever eaten. There were 4 of us, we all liked the food as well if not better than some other cruises. I know others did not agree, but that is their opinion, am glad that we didn't feel the same way about it.
So, you see, my opinion is much different than many others, but what makes you right and me wrong (no sugar coating here, honest).

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cruisecluestoo
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posted 02-20-2004 05:25 PM      Profile for cruisecluestoo   Email cruisecluestoo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Islandhappy,
Thanks for telling it like it was.Well said.
Diane

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Czechmate
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posted 02-24-2004 08:00 AM      Profile for Czechmate     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This vitriolic review is so unbalanced as to be useless.
I shall cruise on Lirica on 10th March and shall make sure that I have a great time. There is enough of everything on board any cruise ship to make sure that you gain maximum benefit.
I have experienced MSC before (Melody) and know very well that some aspects might not be to all tastes. The organisation is poor as is the entertainment but the musicians have always been excellent and catering to a huge range of tastes.
When I cruised there was anger at muttering at disembarkation at each port since the ships photographers were wishing to takes phots of passengers going ashore and passengers were being held in long line aboard ship. Most people did not want to purchase the photos anyway and very few did. Proof that sometimes the shipping company cannot win.
Maybe the european sophistication is not to the taste of all passengers!!

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RobHolland
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posted 02-24-2004 09:07 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dobra djen Czechmate, welcome aboard! Your cruise with the Lirica will be better than with the Melody. MSC has put their best staff on the Lirica. Service is better, ship is far better, overall quality is better. You pay less for your cruise than with other companies, but there still is value for money. In case you haven't seen it yet: my site www.msclirica.tk provides additional info.
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Czechmate
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posted 04-05-2004 02:56 AM      Profile for Czechmate     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We travelled on Lirica on the Eastern Caribbean/Panama Canal Cruise 10th-21st March
and can state for certain that the above review is totally false and inaccurate and should be ignored.
Lirica is a beautiful ship with an excellent crew who provide top class service. The food is good with an Italian/ European twist. For value for money it would be difficult to find better value anywhere in the world. We only had one complaint and that was very arrogant Americans who never stopped complaing with voice set at 10 decibells.
We urge everyone to go ahead and have a great time on the beautiful Lirica.
I am disappointed in that I posted reviews on Cruisecritic and CruiseTalk and I am still waiting for their publication. I do wonder if some sites are interested in giving balanced reports and remaining impartial.
One last question, Does anyone believe that no matter how unhappy you are with your cruise that it is correct behaviour to scrawl lipstick obscene graffiti on the ships artwork?

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posted 04-05-2004 10:53 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Czechmate (cool name BTW):

It is NEVER acceptible to deface anything that doesn't belong to you. I would be appalled to see someone scribble (or carve) ANYTHING on any part of a ship. If I saw someone doing it, I'd grab the first officer I could find and let them know. If no one was around, I'd follow the person until they were in an area where someone of importance was around. If they went to their cabin, well, got 'em!

Sorry to hear that you found the Americans to be obnoxious. Unfortunately, it does happen. Some folks think the entire world revolves around them and everyone else has been placed on the earth to serve their needs. I can assure you that there are those of us who delight in simply being on a ship and know the correct way to treat people.

Thanks for your comments and hope to read the full review soon.

Russ


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Ðraikar
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posted 04-05-2004 12:19 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by claudio:
everybody knows americans arent very popularat the moment, but i doubt a whole ship would go out of thier way to make your cruise miserable.

When it comes to us Americans you never know.

Patrick Newell,
I found your review entertaining but long.


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posted 04-05-2004 01:42 PM      Profile for Sailor   Email Sailor   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It seems I am not the only one surprised at this negative review of the MSC Lirica. I have myself booked her for a Med cruise in Oct 2004 after cancelling a cruise that was planned for April 18th on the ill fated Festival Mistral. (Thank god I cancelled in time)
Based on the reviews (especially PamM`s great review) I have read on the MSC ships I`m sure I made the right choice and am looking forward to it.
Up to date I have been on both the Carnival Triumph (Nov 2002) and also last Nov on the Carnival Jubilee. The reviews on these ships go from lousy to great.....we enjoyed both....so this shows you how tastes differ !!!
There is however one point that I can`t help commenting on: Being a European travelling to the US for cruising and business often, I have a problem understanding the aggrevation of US-Citizens on the MSC Lirica having to line up at 6.45am for Immigration.
Sorry ,but the treatment you are complaining of on the MSC Lirica is the proceedure we have to go through every time we enter the US......for us it is normal to wait in line at the Airports for over an hour or get up at 5.30 am on the cruise ships. ....unfortuantely they don`t serve coffee there either......even after a 10Hr. flight....!!
But anyway, let`s not make a mountain out of a molehill.....this is the freedom of travel we want today and I guess standing in line for Immigrationn is probably the price we have to pay for it....!!

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