Log In | Customer Support
Home Book Travel Destinations Hotels Cruises Air Travel Community Search:

Search

Search CruisePage

Book a Cruise
- CruiseServer
- Search Caribbean
- Search Alaska
- Search Europe
- 888.700.TRIP

Book Online
Cruise
Air
Hotel
Car
Cruising Area:

Departure Date:
Cruise Length:

Price Range:

Cruise Line:

Buy Stuff

Reviews
- Ship Reviews
- Dream Cruise
- Ship of the Month
- Reader Reviews
- Submit a Review
- Millennium Cruise

Community
- Photo Gallery
- Join Cruise Club
- Cruise News
- Cruise News Archive
- Cruise Views
- Cruise Jobs
- Special Needs
- Maritime Q & A
- Sea Stories

Industry
- New Ship Guide
- Former Ships
- Port Information
- Inspection Scores
- Shipyards
- Ship Cams
- Ship Tracking
- Freighter Travel
- Man Overboard List
- Potpourri

Shopping
- Shirts & Hats
- Books
- Videos

Contact Us
- Reservations
- Mail
- Feedback
- Suggest-a-Site
- About Us

Reader Sites
- PamM's Site
- Ernst's Site
- Patsy's Site
- Ben's Site
- Carlos' Site
- Chris' Site
- SRead's Site


Cruise Travel - Cruise Talk
Cruise Talk Cruise News

Welcome to Cruise Talk the Internet's most popular discussion forum dedicated to cruising. Stop by Cruise Talk anytime to post a message or find out what your fellow passengers and industry insiders are saying about a particular ship, cruise line or destination.

>>> Reader Reviews
>>> CruisePage.com Photo Gallery
>>> Join Our Cruise Club.

Latest News...Norwegian Cruise Line celebrated the debut of the all-new Norwegian Aqua to Port Canaveral, Fla. on Saturday, April 26, 2025, where she commenced her inaugural season of round-trip Caribbean cruises as the newest ship in port. This past weekend, approximately 3,700 guests embarked on Norwegian Aqua's first week-long voyage to the Caribbean from Port Canaveral, Fla., her initial homeport ...

Latest News...Royal Caribbean Group (NYSE: RCL) today reported first quarter Earnings per Share ("EPS") of $2.70 and Adjusted EPS of $2.71. These results were better than the company's guidance due to stronger than expected pricing on close-in demand and lower costs mainly due to timing. Royal Caribbean said that it is increasing its full year 2025 Adjusted EPS guidance to $14.55 to $15.55...

Latest News...Holland America Line announced itineraries for its two Grand Voyages sailing in 2027, offering guests the choice to embark on an ambitious 129-day circumnavigation of the globe on the 2027 Grand World Voyage or a 70-day, region-specific in-depth exploration on the Grand South America & Antarctica Voyage. As revealed today by the cruise line's president Beth Bodensteiner to guests on board...

More Cruise News...


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | register | search | faq | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Cruise Talk   » Cruise Lines   » problems with NCL (Page 1)

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!  
This topic is comprised of pages:  1  2 
 
Author Topic: problems with NCL
Kitty
Just Boarded
Member # 4024

posted 07-22-2003 07:25 PM      Profile for Kitty   Email Kitty   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Serious post-cruise difficulties with Norwegian, which consequently have completely convinced me that I
will never take another Norwegain Cruise. Less than 12 hours after departing the ship after my cruise ended
last Sat I realized I had left some very important personal articles on board (each bigger than a bread box).
I was told Mon (after a very lengthy phone wait) that the articles were not found and frankly it was my
tough luck. After not receiving a call back from the "Guest Relations" Manager (I presume) whom I left a
VM with, I called back again today and was told he was not in and that there was no way would they know
on Mon if the articles were found or not. The woman who answered she had another list and my stuff was
not on the list and so it's my tough luck. The problem with this scenario, aside from the rude bimbos
answering the phones, is that these items were fairly large and the room, of course, was cleaned
immediately, consequently, if the items have not been found, they have been taken by a crew member as
there is no other plausible explanation. Of course, NCL still says it's my tough luck and I think this is an
incredibly poor level of service and highly unsatisfactory to me and unless I get some kind of satisfaction that
NCL has done everything they can to find my articles, I will never sail with this company again. I also plan
to air my complaints on Frommers and other travel sites. Apparently now that they have my money, their
level of customer concern plummets so I certainly do not plan to give any more of my money to a company
who treats it's past customers this way. Hopefully, someone in the company who cares will see this and do
something, but, I don't have high hopes.

Posts: 1 | From: Texas | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged
BermudaBoy
First Class Passenger
Member # 3961

posted 07-22-2003 08:47 PM      Profile for BermudaBoy   Email BermudaBoy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ok...umm well maybe you should write a review?
Posts: 91 | From: Delaware... The Reason Why Vacations Were Made! | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged
gohaze
First Class Passenger
Member # 586

posted 07-22-2003 10:02 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Something a bit strange here. It took 12 hours to realise that important personal articles larger than a bread box had been left behind in the cabin.
The last thing any normal person does when leaving the cabin to get off is to have a last look around to make sure nothing is missed.
....peter

Posts: 1909 | From: Vancouver.BC | Registered: Sep 99  |  IP: Logged
feargus
First Class Passenger
Member # 3982

posted 07-22-2003 10:50 PM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
must agree with gohaze. it does sound a bit odd to leave something that large and important and not notice for 12 hours.
if this really did happen the large important things are probably in the garbage. it is very big job to turn a ship around and have it ready for the next lot of punters getting on. areas are cleaned and garbage removed as fast as possible.
i don't think i would offer a free cruise or obc.
are you sure it was left on the ship?

Posts: 249 | From: Halifax,Canada / Abu Dhabi, UAE | Registered: Jul 2003  |  IP: Logged
cruiseny
First Class Passenger
Member # 2928

posted 07-22-2003 10:55 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with those above who have stated that this is a bit odd. While I'm certainly sorry to hear that something was left behind, it is hardly NCL's fault. It is your obligation to take your personal items with you!

While it certainly would be "the right thing to do" for a crew member took the object to the front office, it could have easily been mistaken for garbage (depending on what it was of course). At any rate NCL is not to blame for your predicament!

This rather reminds me of a story ...

[ 07-22-2003: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


Posts: 4730 | From: New York, USA | Registered: Mar 2002  |  IP: Logged
Namlit
First Class Passenger
Member # 1940

posted 07-23-2003 12:28 AM      Profile for Namlit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is wondering: what were these "bigger than a breadbox" items???
Posts: 309 | From: Greene County, Indiana, USA | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged
tlmlb
First Class Passenger
Member # 1276

posted 07-23-2003 12:43 AM      Profile for tlmlb   Email tlmlb   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well..i am not going to slam the author, however fishy it might be...what they need to do is find out the name of the guest relations person for the particular ship she sailed on...I believe that NCL has one assigned to each ship to handle issues with service etc. To get the appropriate contact name, I would start by going to the travel agent who booked the cruise. The agent can contact the NCL sales rep who handles that agency who will know the person in Miami to contact to attempt to track down the articles....this is just going up the ladder a bit..it may take some time to get any action, but to those who persevere....
Posts: 21 | Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
RobHolland
First Class Passenger
Member # 3779

posted 07-23-2003 02:06 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

Something a bit strange here. It took 12 hours to realise that important personal articles larger than a bread box had been left behind in the cabin.
The last thing any normal person does when leaving the cabin to get off is to have a last look around to make sure nothing is missed.
....peter


As she lives in Texas, maybe she discovered her loss back home?


Posts: 762 | From: ms Rotterdam | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged
Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-23-2003 07:48 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gohaze:
Something a bit strange here. It took 12 hours to realise that important personal articles larger than a bread box had been left behind in the cabin.

Yes this is rather silly of the passenger, to put it mildly. NCL staff may have though it a bomb and a major security alert could have resulted. However, there is no excuse for NCL to be rude or unhelpful.

NCL are probably not legally responsible for someone’s lost property. Anyway, another passenger may have stolen it, if it is an item of value?


Posts: 19210 | From: Essex (Just Outside London) | Registered: A Long Time Ago!  |  IP: Logged
RobHolland
First Class Passenger
Member # 3779

posted 07-23-2003 08:55 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cabin steward was responsible for the cleaning of miss Kitty's cabin. As hygiene/safety-standards demand a fully inspected and cleaned cabin, this steward musthave seen these goods- as long she's sure she lost it in her cabin- before the new passengers entered their accommodation. I would recommend to keep trying to get in contact, as the steward get's load of new passengers all the time and maybe now can remember something.

I absolutely don't want to blame the cabin steward in advance, but this seems the most logical and usual way how things go. Most stewards are poor, and see 'all the rich'-in their eyes- passengers come and go. Not every person can handle this. During one of my cruises there was a cleaner who stole a left video cam from an older lady. After investigation I heard he was kicked off the ship.

Kitty I wish you good luck!


Posts: 762 | From: ms Rotterdam | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged
PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 07-23-2003 09:04 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Doors are often all left open for cleaning once passengers have vacated the cabins. The morning of disembarkation is a great time to wander about to have a peek in some of the other categories. Anyone passing could have looked in, seen the items, had a closer look and taken them.
Anyhow, there is always the insurance to claim on for the value.
Pam.

Posts: 12176 | From: Cambridge, UK | Registered: Jun 2001  |  IP: Logged
Barryboat
First Class Passenger
Member # 33

posted 07-23-2003 09:35 AM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An excellent point....This is why it is important for passengers too purchase the insurance offered by the cruise line...lost or damaged luggage is a claim that can be made.

It is the responsibility to make sure they have all their belongings. On a cruise ship it is often difficult to return lost articles after they were left in a cabin....the ship is not in the business of the storage of things passengers have left behind...it's a ship and space is limited. From what I remember when I worked on the ships, after every cruise there was always passenger stuff left behind...it would be a full-time job for someone to get the lost articles to a shoreside office and then contact the passenger and return stuff. logistics are a bit more difficult than a hotel.

There is no reason why NCL should be rude however, responding to kitty's inquiry. The cruise line is in the business of SERVICE to it's passengers, but the logistics of lost or left behind articles is a tough issue to deal with.


Posts: 1851 | From: Bloomington, Minnesota (Home to the Mall of America) | Registered: Mar 99  |  IP: Logged
Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-23-2003 10:14 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Barryboat:
....This is why it is important for passengers too purchase the insurance offered by the cruise line...

Barryboat is right about the importance of Travel insurance, but it is usually much cheaper not to by it from the Cruise Line or Travel agent.

Annual policies can represent very good value, if you travel more than once per year.


Posts: 19210 | From: Essex (Just Outside London) | Registered: A Long Time Ago!  |  IP: Logged
RANGERVR6178
First Class Passenger
Member # 3946

posted 07-23-2003 11:02 AM      Profile for RANGERVR6178   Email RANGERVR6178   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is these important boxes? No offence, but me and my 2 best friends who are 15 managed to get everything out of our cabin and not leave anything behind.
Posts: 243 | From: Sarasota, Florida | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged
cncservo
First Class Passenger
Member # 532

posted 07-24-2003 08:48 PM      Profile for cncservo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe you left it where you were waiting to exit the ship.
Maybe you left it in the restroom.
Maybe you left it in the airplane.
Maybe the airline lost it.
Maybe it fell from the plane while in flight.
Maybe you left it in the cab.
Heck maybe you never took it.

Posts: 170 | Registered: May 99  |  IP: Logged
Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 07-24-2003 11:18 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
C'mon folks! What is this? Let's insult the newbie time? And some of you wonder why many oldies don't come around any more? Enough is enough!
Posts: 2698 | From: Pointe-Claire, QC Canada | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged
BermudaBoy
First Class Passenger
Member # 3961

posted 07-25-2003 08:57 AM      Profile for BermudaBoy   Email BermudaBoy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:
C'mon folks! What is this? Let's insult the newbie time? And some of you wonder why many oldies don't come around any more? Enough is enough!

...Who's insulting anyone?? I Dont see any insulting going on... or maybe im just crazy.

Posts: 91 | From: Delaware... The Reason Why Vacations Were Made! | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged
PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 07-25-2003 09:59 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not insulting, just querying a few details that need further explanation. Had someone made a similar first post on some other boards, and then never returned to clarify, the replies would have been somewhat blunter. If a regular had made such a post then they would have responded and would have been 'believed'. As it is, one wonders if it was a real situation, someone in with an axe to grind, or even someone just messing around.....if no response after a week, I'd pick one of the latter 2 options and dismiss.
Pam

[ 07-25-2003: Message edited by: PamM ]


Posts: 12176 | From: Cambridge, UK | Registered: Jun 2001  |  IP: Logged
Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 07-25-2003 03:39 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Not insulting, just querying a few details that need further explanation.

The same point is being made over and over by different people giving the overall impression that the oldies are ganging up on the poor misguided newbie. While your own post might not be insulting, the post immediately before my protest is both condescending and, imho, insulting. It is not what one has in mind that counts, it is how it is perceived that is important. Put yourself in Kitty's shoes.


Posts: 2698 | From: Pointe-Claire, QC Canada | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged
Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-25-2003 04:26 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:
Put yourself in Kitty's shoes.

Assuming that she has not lost them!

Sorry Kitty, I could not resist that. I suspect kitty does not want to talk about this with us, she just wanted to give NCL some bad publicity!

I doubt if she would have returned anyway - she won't now!


Posts: 19210 | From: Essex (Just Outside London) | Registered: A Long Time Ago!  |  IP: Logged
fondaenergy
First Class Passenger
Member # 1641

posted 07-26-2003 04:00 AM      Profile for fondaenergy   Email fondaenergy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The real issue is how NCL managed the problem -- not necessarily the resolution.

We have been on three NCL cruises. Our cruise on Norwegian Crown was wonderful. There were no problems.

There were problems with with our Norway and Norwegian Wind cruises.

With the Norway cruise, we had booked flights to Miami. The flight to Miami was cancelled and we wound up driving. We had to fight for months because NCL refused to return our airfare. It got to the point where our travel agent was going to refund it personally. Very nasty. No timely responses.

On the Norwegian Wind cruise, my brother and his family went with us. NCL managed to lose their reservation. It took a great deal of fighting to get their reservation reinstated. This was clearly an NCL problem.

On both cruises, we has shipboard problems with the staff which were not properly addressed -- like plumbing problems.

I am extremely reluctant to book another cruise with NCL due to their lack of responsiveness to problems.


Posts: 177 | From: Jacksonville, FL | Registered: Oct 2000  |  IP: Logged
topgun
First Class Passenger
Member # 928

posted 07-26-2003 09:11 AM      Profile for topgun     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
over the years, I have left th the odd thing like the electric shaver and odds and ends in the rush to get home.

I tried a couple of times to get recovery, but the things had disapeared as things are wont to to do.

Since you are obviously PO'd at the carrier then try someone else.

Unfortunatetely I doubt that you will have better results elsewhere.

Try my system, I count the items to be carried ashore and keep reassuring myseslf that we have them. Its tedious , it works, and sends everyone else in the party nuts.

[ 07-26-2003: Message edited by: topgun ]


Posts: 759 | From: Burlington ont,canada Cruise center of North America | Registered: Nov 1999  |  IP: Logged
gohaze
First Class Passenger
Member # 586

posted 07-26-2003 10:47 AM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As people who've always travelled with one 26" suitcase each plus a carryon that fits airline dimensions (except that one known as bloody awful) we get laughs every trip watching people like Kitty struggling with all their numerous bags full of stuff they didn't use.

....peter


Posts: 1909 | From: Vancouver.BC | Registered: Sep 99  |  IP: Logged
Green
First Class Passenger
Member # 171

posted 07-28-2003 10:03 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gohaze:
As people who've always travelled with one 26" suitcase each plus a carryon that fits airline dimensions (except that one known as bloody awful) we get laughs every trip watching people like Kitty struggling with all their numerous bags full of stuff they didn't use.

....peter


You're our kind of travellers!

One question - have you figured out a way to get those bags off the carousel when no porters are in sight?
Must confess that my bag usually has a 'heavy baggage' sticker on it!

I think Kitty has left us - not much sympathy forthcoming, eh?


Posts: 2913 | From: Markham, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Jul 99  |  IP: Logged
gohaze
First Class Passenger
Member # 586

posted 07-28-2003 10:17 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Green....there's a little bit of art to it. You grab the handle and sort of swing it towards the edge going with the movement - if you can see you're not going to make it, let go and repeat next time around. DON'T try and lift it over, let it use it's own weight to sort of fall over the edge. Also don't worry about other people they'll look out for themselves. Then you can get a two-handed lift onto the cart - at which point a porter will show up.
Murphy's Law also states that your case will be the one jammed between two others diagonally at the back - just let someone else sort those out and crush their fingers.

yours aye....peter


Posts: 1909 | From: Vancouver.BC | Registered: Sep 99  |  IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)
This topic is comprised of pages:  1  2 
 

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | CruisePage

Infopop Corporation
Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3

VACATION & CRUISE SPECIALS
Check out these great deals from CruisePage.com

Royal Caribbean - Bahamas Getaway from $129 per person
Description: Experience the beautiful ports of Nassau and Royal Caribbean's private island - CocoCay on a 3-night Weekend Getaway to the Bahamas. Absorb everything island life has to offer as you snorkel with the stingrays, parasail above the serene blue waters and walk the endless white sand beaches. From Miami.
Carnival - 4-Day Bahamas from $229 per person
Description: Enjoy a wonderful 3 Day cruise to the fun-loving playground of Nassau, Bahamas. Discover Nassau, the capital city as well as the cultural, commercial and financial heart of the Bahamas. Meet the Atlantic Southern Stingrays, the guardians of Blackbeard's treasure.
NCL - Bermuda - 7 Day from $499 per person
Description: What a charming little chain of islands. Walk on pink sand beaches. Swim and snorkel in turquoise seas. Take in the historical sights. They're stoically British and very quaint. Or explore the coral reefs. You can get to them by boat or propelled by fins. You pick. Freestyle Cruising doesn't tell you where to go or what to do. Sure, you can plan ahead, or decide once onboard. After all, it's your vacation. There are no deadlines or must do's.
Holland America - Eastern Caribbean from From $599 per person
Description: White sand, black sand, talcum soft or shell strewn, the beaches of the Eastern Caribbean invite you to swim, snorkel or simply relax. For shoppers, there's duty-free St. Thomas, the Straw Market in Nassau, French perfume and Dutch chocolates on St. Maarten. For history buffs, the fascinating fusion of Caribbean, Latin and European cultures. For everyone, a day spent on HAL's award winning private island Half Moon Cay.
Celebrity - 7-Night Western Mediterranean from $549 per person
Description: For centuries people have traveled to Europe to see magnificent ruins, art treasures and natural wonders. And the best way to do so is by cruise ship. Think of it - you pack and unpack only once. No wasted time searching for hotels and negotiating train stations. Instead, you arrive at romantic ports of call relaxed, refreshed and ready to take on the world.
Holland America - Alaska from From $499 per person
Description: Sail between Vancouver and Seward, departing Sundays on the ms Statendam or ms Volendam and enjoy towering mountains, actively calving glaciers and pristine wildlife habitat. Glacier Bay and College Fjord offer two completely different glacier-viewing experiences.

| Home | About Us | Suggest-a-Site | Feedback | Contact Us | Privacy |
This page, and all contents, are © 1995-2021 by Interactive Travel Guides, Inc. and/or its suppliers. All rights reserved.
TravelPage.com is a trademark of Interactive Travel Guides, Inc.
Powered by TravelServer Software