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joe at travelpage
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posted 02-26-2003 01:39 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From the Carnival Web Site:

quote:
What are your alcohol and consumption policies?
Effective February 2003:

Guests are prohibited from bringing beverages of any kind (alcoholic and non-alcoholic) on board the ship for consumption. This includes: sodas, juices and bottled water.

However, we will make the following exception: If guests are celebrating a special occassion on board, they may bring ONE sealed bottle of wine or champagne per cabin. If the wine and/or champagne are brought to the Dining Room for consumption, a $10.00 corkage fee will be charged to the guest. Otherwise, the guest may drink the wine and/or champagne in the privacy of their cabin only. It may not be brought into any public lounge or room.

Alcohol purchased in a port-of-call: Alcoholic beverages purchased in any port-of-call will be appropriated at the gangway and stored onboard until the last night of the cruise, upon which it will be delivered to the guest’s cabin.

Alcohol purchased in ship gift shops: Alcoholic beverages of any kind purchased in the ship's gift shop will also be stored onboard and delivered to the guest's cabin on the last night of the cruise.

Consumption of alcohol on board: The minimum age for the purchase and/or consumption of alcoholic beverages while on board is 21 years of age. In the event that Bar/Restaurant/Gift Shop Staff are in question that the guest is under 21, they shall request picture identification prior to serving said guest.

Note: The legal drinking age onboard is 21 and is strictly enforced. We do not allow the purchase of drinks or bottles of liquor by adults for minors. Possession of alcohol by a minor will not be tolerated and any found will be confiscated, even if found in cabin.


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posted 02-26-2003 03:11 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
just another reason why resort holidays are getting more inviting to the traveller........jeff
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posted 02-26-2003 06:46 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
joe at travelpage:
Alcohol purchased in a port-of-call: Alcoholic beverages purchased in any port-of-call will be appropriated at the gangway and stored onboard until the last night of the cruise, upon which it will be delivered to the guest’s cabin.


Wow, the last night of each Carnival cruise will host some wild parties!

I don't see a problem with this? Yes, onboard prices can be expensive, but it is a business!

Do you take your own liquor to a land based bar?


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posted 02-26-2003 07:17 PM      Profile for Grant   Email Grant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you take your own liquor to a land based bar? No you don't, but you sure can take your own bottle to your room!!
If cruise lines want to make more money from their bars, they should lower the prices. Cheaper drinks would encourage folk to have a few in a lounge. For many travellers, the concept of "all inclusive" resorts has really taken off. That is what cruise lines will have to compete with.

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posted 02-27-2003 03:57 AM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
P&O in australia have a similar policy even though they dont go as far as confiscating your personal supply in your cabin. they ask you hand over any duty free alcohol you buy in port and about half the ship does, i usually walk right past them. If you want a drink in your cabin at 2 am do the carnival people bring it to your cabin for you?. I DOUBT IT. My advise to you americans is ignore their directive and take your own if you want, what Carnival dont realise is that most people only have one or two drinks per day in their cabin, last time i went i had 5 bottles (WE AUSSIES LIKE OUR BOOZE) and i dont think i touched them much prefer to go to one of the bars. I feel sorry for american 18 to 21 year olds they can buy a car, drugs and as many rifles as they like but they cant have a beer. Know wonder the americans on boad pacific sky always look like they are having the time of their lives
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posted 02-27-2003 04:43 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...don?t get me wrong, I do not like being ripped off by high prices either! However, I accept that cruise lines generate much of their income from onboard sales and excursions.

I?ve never regarded cruising as a cheap vacation. O.K some cruise fares may seem good value, but the real profit is obviously created by the cashless accounts. I?ve witnessed passengers onboard spend two or three times their fares on the additionals, or more!

If cruise lines cut onboard prices, they would simply raise the fares. However, it is not difficult to see that low fares and higher bar prices does create the impression of a cheap vacation. When we book a cruise we often underestimate what we will spend onboard and forget about the tips.

I would imagine most of us spend more onboard than we intend to, don't we?


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posted 02-27-2003 06:18 AM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
malcolm you seem to forget that the shipping lines buy all their booze duty free, i remember they used to promote low onboard prices as one of their selling points ( alright it was in the 60.s and 70.s. i remeber paying 35cents for a can of fosters on the fairstar in 1979 and a bottle of scotch duty free 2 bucks. They make quite a bit from onboard revenue i think some of the cruises ive been on they could give away the cruise for free and the passengers will pay for their trip at the bar, some of the guys on the old fairstar never left the animal bar.
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posted 02-27-2003 07:15 AM      Profile for WhiteStar   Email WhiteStar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Many people bring booze on board due to the high costs at the bars. As I mentioned in another post last year, 2 call brand vodka martinis on Celebrity's Infinity cost just under $16 with added on gratuity. A duty free liter of vodka is less than $14.

What about the folks who want to have a nightcap on their veranda before retiring? Call room service? Ridiculous!


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posted 02-27-2003 08:37 AM      Profile for nathan     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While I don't like this policy, I will point out that Carnival does provide drinks from room service 24 hours a day, and does sell bottles of liquor through room service. It's more expensive than sold in the gift shop, but it is available. Carnival has also started installing minibars on their ships, so non-alcoholic beverages are available in the cabin.
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posted 02-27-2003 08:44 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by claudio:
I feel sorry for american 18 to 21 year olds they can buy a car, drugs and as many rifles as they like but they cant have a beer. Know wonder the americans on boad pacific sky always look like they are having the time of their lives

Sad, but true. When I was a teen, I got around the drinking laws. My parents were permissive so I got it "out of my system" fairly young.

I recall, even to this day. Children in public or secular prep schools are far less rowdy than kids who are in strict parochial schools.

When I was a teen in the late 1970's, I had little interest in cruising, since i was too old for the kiddie stuff, and too young for the other entertainment.


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posted 02-27-2003 09:07 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by claudio:
malcolm you seem to forget that the shipping lines buy all their booze duty free...


I did not realize that!


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posted 02-27-2003 12:41 PM      Profile for gurliegurl   Email gurliegurl   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that resorts have the right idea...some resorts have a pass that you can purchase..its only for one night or one day..you pay a certain amount an can drink how much you want..wouldnt something like this be realistic? This may prevent people from sneeking stuff on the cruise
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posted 02-27-2003 09:15 PM      Profile for Grant   Email Grant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have it on very good authority (Beverage Manager) that indeed the booze comes on a very low price; not only duty free but the result of bulk purchasing. Many of the lines have an outside contractor providing bar services, the largest is (was) Greyhound Catering. Alot of money is made here, but I feel that I am being gouged aboard a ship. For many years, the drink prices were very cheap, and the bars were packed. Granted, the ship was full of Aussies (!)but all the bars on Canberra and Oriana had standing room only before dinner. Today, maybe 6 or 7 small groups lingering over a single predinner drink. I think the cruise lines should experiment with a sailing or two with low prices and see what happens.
Also, some cruise lines have a mark up over the duty free shop prices, for cabin consumption. Those that do seem to do a roaring business with that. Drink prices are way too expensive, and with the added 15% service charge I give the bars a miss most of the time.

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posted 02-28-2003 09:23 AM      Profile for lambcom   Email lambcom   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While I know that Celebrity's on-board ships won't sell passengers a bottle of liquor for in-cabin consumption, HAL used to allow you to buy a bottle at any time during a cruise to take to your cabin. (My most recent experience with HAL was three years ago).

Perhaps some of the HAL faithful, such as Green and Sympatico, can tell me if this is still HAL's policy or whether Carnival greed has reared its ugly head?


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posted 02-28-2003 10:28 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lambcom - Yes, you can still buy bottles of booze on HAL ships. They do charge a fee for cabin consumption, like around 20% maybe (I always seem to get this wrong). Will check this out when I am on the Veendam in April.

Grant - the Ocean Bar on HAL ships is always packed with pre-dinner drinkers, so much so that at times you can't even get a seat. A lot of people also go to the Crow's Nest before and after dinner. Don't think the rise in drink prices has stopped HAL passengers from enjoying their drinks in the bars - and there is NO 15% added gratuity. Sure the price of drinks has gone up from the "old" days, but what hasn't.

From what I have seen, they also do a whopping business in the store which sells the bottles of liquor.

[ 02-28-2003: Message edited by: sympatico ]


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posted 02-28-2003 12:51 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On our last cruise we picked up a couple of bottles at a Duty Free before boarding - only to find that the on board store was cheaper - even with the % for in cabin use.
Do please check out that +% Sympatico.

Resorts using that 'all you can drink for one low price' policy invariable include only 'local' brands and, to my mind, encourage reckless consumption. For brand names you pay.

It's to be hoped that HAL continues to treat its passengers/guests as responsible adults. No reasonable person would expect to bring his or her own bottle to a bar or lounge. As for a corkage fee for a special wine - nothing wrong with that either - hotels and restaurants do it all the time.


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posted 02-28-2003 04:58 PM      Profile for lambcom   Email lambcom   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, Green and Sympatico! You came through, as always. I do remember that even with the percentage mark-up, the bottles I bought for in-cabin consumption were significantly cheaper than the retail price one would pay in either Quebec or Ontario.

I look forward to your update after your next cruise, Sympatico. One of the things we enjoyed most about the veranda cabin we had on our last cruise was a nightcap before retiring.

Seems to me that HAL has learned that if you treat passengers like adults and give them the respect they deserve, by in large you'll get that respect back. Frisking passengers returning to the ship from a duty-free port or conducting cabin searches for stashed liquor can do nothing but bring out the worst in people, IMHO.


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conducting cabin searches for stashed liquor can do nothing but bring out the worst in people, IMHO.

Oh for crying out loud, no one does this. Carnival DID say that if the cabin steward finds alcohol in the cabin of underage occupants it will be taken away but they don't go snooping for it.

CGT


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quote:
Originally posted by CGT:
conducting cabin searches for stashed liquor can do nothing but bring out the worst in people, IMHO.

Oh for crying out loud, no one does this. Carnival DID say that if the cabin steward finds alcohol in the cabin of underage occupants it will be taken away but they don't go snooping for it.
CGT


Seems to me that's an open invitation to 'stash your cache!


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TO THE SENSATIVE EARS THAT DON'T LIKE A MINOR CURSE-DO NOT READ THIS AS I USED THE bs WORD AGAIN

Sympatico: In my cruising experience, I think HAL is the only line that does not add the automatic gratuity. That is one of the many reasons that I have for travelling with them again and again. I still tip! 20% surcharge for a bottle of your favourite spirit is not ripping a passenger off. Wish all the cruise lines would do the same. I have had all my bags searched on reboarding, and have seen liquor taken away at that time. I refused to give up my Pepsi, even though they tried to take it away. Seems that if they have an exclusive contract with Coke, passengers are not permitted to bring even their favourite soda aboard. I say bull shit to all of this crap-at a resort I can bring in what I want regardless of the label on the beverage or the ocntents of the bottle.
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posted 03-01-2003 09:43 AM      Profile for K&K   Email K&K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just returned from the Volendam and it was 10% duty to take it to your room and yes some of the brands were cheaper than could be purchased on shore.
What I did find interesting is that were big signs when boarding that stated penal code sections and some other sections (maybe government) as to the penaty fine and jail time to provide acohol to minors. Maybe I just noticed the signs this time but I think they were new.
Kevin

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quote:
Originally posted by Grant:
I refused to give up my Pepsi, even though they tried to take it away. Seems that if they have an exclusive contract with Coke, passengers are not permitted to bring even their favourite soda aboard.

I am not sure how they could enforce not bringing one's own soft drinks unless they are going to privide a full range aboard, which isn't practical. Many people can only have 'diet' or non sugar soft drinks and I really can't see my husband for example enjoying a week of 'prison' with only a choice of water or diet coke to drink. He has his favourites and takes maybe an orange/lemon & pepsi with him. He can't get them aboard anyway, so no loss of revenue, as he can't have their alternative.
Do they supply diet tonic for people who like gin & diet tonic? They would have too, if you couldn't bring your own.
Pam

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A friend always carries diet tonic on board - at the best of times it's not easy to find and it's not carried by HAL.

I also take Schweppes Tonic and Ginger Ale - Canada Dry and the fountain offerings have no taste. Never had any problems.


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posted 03-01-2003 12:18 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Grant
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I have had all my bags searched on reboarding, and have seen liquor taken away at that time. I refused to give up my Pepsi, even though they tried to take it away.

Are you saying this happened on a HAL ship or some other cruise line? I am confused.


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Sympatico: I wrote that last post late at night, and should have been a little more specific. The confication of my Pepsi occured on a NCL cruise aboard Norway. I did not mean to cast any negative barbs towards HAL!!
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