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topgun
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posted 02-27-2002 04:48 PM      Profile for topgun     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I continue my saga of dealing with braindead travel agents. This time, another new one, the agent forgot to call concerning payment in full for our next cruise.

Fortunately I had it flagged and went today, the due date and made payment.

My question of the many agents out there who are on the ball;

Do you normally call the client and remind them when final payments are due.

If the agent fails to forward the payment , What happens? Is the booking and deposit forfeited?


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DianaD
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posted 02-27-2002 04:58 PM      Profile for DianaD   Email DianaD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Firstly it would be wise to find an agent and stick with them.

Question about calling the client. Yes Agents call the client, usually at least a week before the final payment is due.

As far as loosing the deposit, it really depends on the cruise line as to how long they will wait after the due date for payment. Some cruise lines will wait a couple of extra weeks without cancelling the cruise whereas others do it almost straight away. It is always wise for the Agent to inform the Cruise line that they are having problems getting hold of the client and they will usually wait.

Of course the client who wants everything at a discount frequently gets a discount agent!!!


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M.S.Grumple
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posted 02-27-2002 07:03 PM      Profile for M.S.Grumple     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DianaD:
Firstly it would be wise to find an agent and stick with them.
Of course the client who wants everything at a discount frequently gets a discount agent!!!

From Topgun's previous posts I gather the problem
he's having is FINDING an agent worth sticking with.
I've never heard that he looks solely for discount agents!
From what I've read on this board, seems there are very few 'travel agents' around - plenty of 'order-takers', not always in the discount agencies.
Personally I had very good service from one of the discount agencies - maybe it was a fluke, or else I happened on a 'travel agent'.
Anyway, she gets my business from now on - as long as she looks after me!


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geno-r
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posted 02-27-2002 07:11 PM      Profile for geno-r   Email geno-r   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I too have found a discount agent worth stiking with. This is our third cruise with him and he always comes through with a price that nobody seems to beat and good service too. I'm sticking with him.
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Colin
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posted 02-28-2002 03:19 AM      Profile for Colin   Email Colin   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I must be really lucky. One year, when my agent couldn't get in touch with me, she made the final payment herself. She said that she knew I would have been in touch if I had changed my mind.
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cruznut6
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posted 02-28-2002 07:32 AM      Profile for cruznut6   Author's Homepage   Email cruznut6   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Topgun

I know the feeling and frustration you've experienced. I had an excellent TA several years ago, who kept me informed on all aspects pertaining to any cruise or trip I booked with her. Unfortunately, she moved and couldn't compete with today's megasite pricing.
It became frustrating talking to some TA's who knew next to nothing about the cruise industry.. Be careful of certain "on-line" agencies who have a high turnover rate. I had a bad experience with one, where they never requested final payment when it was due. After waiting a few days, I called them. They claimed they were "upgrading" software and somehow "lost" my file. I then asked how many others this may have happened to, but they had not a clue!
Now, when I book, I ask the exact date that final payment's due, request the info "in writing and stated on my confirmation sheet".That way, I'm in control and not waiting for them to contact me

Regards...Bob


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gohaze
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posted 02-28-2002 08:27 AM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We've used the same TA now for several years - must be about 10, and they always give us the invoice with the due dates on it...I even queried one once and found they add a few days on just in case there's a problem and to allow a little leeway. Good idea.
Then they have my plastic # on file so there's no hangups giving that to the company...it goes very smoothly....EXCEPT the time Princess didn't send the tickets and we did a whole European cruise without any at all. Now, that was interesting.
...peter

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topgun
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posted 02-28-2002 09:56 AM      Profile for topgun     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The problem of finding knowledgeable and reliable persons as travel agents seems to be a real problem now.

I prefer to deal locally with someone who has been around awhile

Unfortunately, the individual agent earns little income in this business, and small agency owners are being squeezed out by larger corporate agencies that enjoy volume discounts.

To me the best type of agent is the recent retiree working part time. These persons I find to have extensive knowledge and business experience and do not feel pressured to make the sale.

The in store type dillybars who spend most of their time dreaming about far away places instead of experiencing them leave me cold.

The reference to "discount agents" leaves me with the same feeling. At most, a local agent may offer 5% on the price of a cruise. This would amount to $200 on the majority of my trips.
I would prefer to pay full pop to an agent and have them handle my arrangements reliably.
This should not be confused with wholesaler cost where I expect the agent to work for me to get the best price going.

[ 02-28-2002: Message edited by: topgun ]


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sympatico
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posted 02-28-2002 10:03 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The other day I popped into a travel agency located in an office building where my doctor is, and asked the lady for a HAL brochure - it was the same one I have. She then got an Encore brochure and tried to talk me into other cruises, like the Norway, Celebrity, etc.
Then started looking through the HAL section and said "here's the Westerdam". There on a page showing all the HAL ships was the 2002 schedule for the Westerdam. I had to inform her that the Westerdam was going to Costa in the next couple of days. Then she said "how about the Veendam for next Fall" - there in the brochure was the Veendam listed as departing from FLL, when in fact in the Fall it is going out of Tampa.
So much for the Encore brochure and that TA. Think I will stick with the one I have.

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DianaD
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posted 02-28-2002 01:17 PM      Profile for DianaD   Email DianaD   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One really has to know where the ships are going these days and not rely on the brochures. Not even the brochures sent by the cruise lines can be relied on anymore, not since Sept 11. Encore was late putting out their brochures due a reprint and they are still wrong. The Agent MUST watch all information sent them and RECONFIRM before offering anything.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 02-28-2002 07:11 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DianaD:
One really has to know where the ships are going these days and not rely on the brochures.

As DianaD says, the brochures are in a complete mess. Itineraries have been dramatically changed, and some reprints are only just reaching the TA's. The ones on the shelves at present are often out of date.

In the 'Ship Reviews' section (Menu left) Joe has listed all of the Cruise Line web sites. This is a GREAT way to keep in touch with the changes.

I'm of the opinion that if you read cruisetalk regularly, you will quickly end up knowing more about cruise lines and ships than 90% of Travel Agents do!


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Green
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posted 02-28-2002 08:37 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A 'somewhat' specific request is required to obtain worthwhile information - regardless of what you're shopping for. A reputable Agency will either have the information at it's fingertips or, with a phone call, can get it.

As DianaD says, "....... it would be wise to find an agent and stick with them."


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Green
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posted 02-28-2002 08:43 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Green:
A 'somewhat' specific request is required to obtain worthwhile information - regardless of what you're shopping for. A reputable Agency will either have the information at it's fingertips or, with a phone call, can get it.

As DianaD says, "....... it would be wise to find an agent and stick with them."


A week ahead reminder that your balance is due is to be expected regrdless of the balance date being noted on the deposit invoice.


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gizmo
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posted 03-18-2002 06:29 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Topgun,

I too, have had brain dead TA's that never notified me of my final payment.
One told me it was my responsiblility,so I never used that one again.
The last bad episode was a real winner.
I called the TA to see if she made the payment and the phone was disconnected. I called AMEX. They did not show the charge. Next I called HAL and explained what was going on. Hal said not to worry, I would not loose the cabin, and put a note in my file and gave me a different number to reach my TA. This number was a mailbox shared by the parent company. I sent the TA an email and left a message on this mailbox.
I finally heard from her. She told me she had her number changed and gave me the new number. I reminded her again that my final payment was due and was now over due by more than a week. She finally made the payment. I called her a week later, using the new phone number and needed an access code which she neve gave me. Talk about Brain Dead!!! There is a whole lot more to this horror story, but needless to say I am not using this TA anymore.


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