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The International Transport Workers Federation has stated that, it has been notified by Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited that the company is moving the registration of its vessels from the Liberian flag.
It was reported some months ago that the Liberian registry income had been used illegally to buy arms. This was confirmed by a United Nations that found that LISCR, the US Company that runs the Liberian Registry, had knowingly diverted four payments totaling $925,000 to non-governmental accounts.
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[ 11-04-2001: Message edited by: Malcolm ]
Liberia, a corrupt and repressive regime, with a deplorable human rights record, and, now apparently a funder of international terrorism, has long been a haven for "Flag of Convenience" shipping.
Cruisers can obtain, from these pages and elsewhere, the countries of registration of cruise ships, and can (and should) withold their dollars, pounds, euros, dinars, and whatever from those ships and associated shipping lines.
I will accept the concept of flags of convenience, e.g. the "Nassau" registration of "Rembrandt."
But the stern counters of the ships on which I have traveled have read "Southampton, Le Harvre, and Marseilles." Never "Monrovia!"
Ryndam
quote:Originally posted by Cambodge:But the stern counters of the ships on which I have traveled have read "Southampton, Le Harvre, and Marseilles." Never "Monrovia!"
I agree once again with you, Cambodge. I was so proud last February to look up at the INDY's beautifil pink stern and see the stars and stripes bravely waving. I only hope that a similar sight soon returns to the high seas.
Also, as an aside, I am told that one of the many fans of the DELTA QUEEN have given her a Gadsden flag to fly; it's the American Revolution era flag with the rattle snake that says "Don't Tread On Me".
Patrick...I thought Bergen is the Norwegian 'Flag-of-convenience'. Plus of course, since the Brits changed the tax laws to compete, I guess you could even include Southampton these days under that heading....peter
[ 11-04-2001: Message edited by: gohaze ]
However, I can't imagine that it will be the Norwegian since that one is about 1000000 USD more expencive per year.
And about competennce of the company, compared to Carnival is RCCL far mutch better.
A watch officer on RCCL makes about 1100 USD better ( after tax ) per month compared to a watch officer in Carnival plus the have a way better vaccations etc.
And, you get what you pay for......
Hell-o Stockholm, Heard that those already under Norwegian flag will remain that way; meaning that Adventure, Explorer, Grandeur, Legend, Nordic Empress, Radiance, (Viking Serenade), Vision and Voyager will fly the Bahama flag.
When I was on Voyager in February she indeed was registered in the Bahamas.
However this whole thing really is a farce as gohaze says, since the Celebrity ships are still registered in Liberia.
As gohaze has said, the front-line people may indeed be very competent, but the senior management is devious, incompetent, and immoral.
When I was on Voyager they had the lifeboat drill during boarding... And we missed it. The law is that a lifeboat drill must be attended by all passengers and held within 24 hours of sailing. Other lines have held "make-up" drills within that period if late boarders missed the drill...
On RCCL we were asked if we had been on a cruise before, having answered yes we were given a sheet of paper with safety instructions and that apparently was our lifeboat drill.
This lassiez-faire attitude is dangerous.
Happy Cruising,Cruiseny
I am surprised nobody has reacted to the fact that while RCCL seems to be playing "good corporate citizen" with the whole "no money to human rights violating countries" and so on and so forth, that Celebrity's ships are still Liberian registered !
If the object of their change was really moral, why didn't they bother to change those ships not operating under their own name? And if it wasn't moral, what was it?
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