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Cunardcoll
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posted 06-24-2001 10:43 AM      Profile for Cunardcoll   Author's Homepage   Email Cunardcoll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is there anyone who has more information about Braemar , Where is she at the moment , how does she look , cruise calenders , Pictures , ... ?????
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-24-2001 03:51 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cunardcoll, She does not start cruising until August. This is all we know, at present:
http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/ubb-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001143

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Marina
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posted 06-29-2001 04:24 AM      Profile for Marina   Email Marina   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi friends,
the Braemar is presently in Hamburg, at the Blohm & Voss shipyard - http://www.blohmvoss.de/index_ger.htm - undergoing an extensive refit, where she will remain until beg.of August.
Pictures of the vessel you will find in the homepage of her owners Fred.Olsen Cruises http://www.fredolsencruises.co.uk/
Hope this will be of some help to you.
kind regards
locarno

[ 06-29-2001: Message edited by: locarno ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-29-2001 06:10 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The 'new' improved Olsen web site never seems to work properly on my PC. It also makes my Browser crash.

Anyone else had problems?


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PamM
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posted 06-29-2001 03:44 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The 'new' improved Olsen web site never seems to work properly on my PC. It also makes my Browser crash.

You will have problems with Opera on it The javascript doesn't work properly and the scrollers don't work at all.

I have emailed them a couple of times about it since they did the new site, but I've had no response. I find the viewing area itself far too small and could easily be double the height which would alleviate the need for the constant scrolling.

They also told me back in Feb that the BlackWatch webcam was being fixed, but it's still stuck back in Oct according to my browser

Pam


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Cunardcoll
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posted 06-29-2001 04:26 PM      Profile for Cunardcoll   Author's Homepage   Email Cunardcoll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have the same problem PamM , But I will try to go see Braemar in Antwerp in August , maybe then, I 'll find out more information.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-29-2001 05:27 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Pam, you sure know your IT!

I've tried the Olsen site with Netscape and Explorer - it's rather naff, what ever browser I use, in my layman's opinion!


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posted 06-29-2001 05:30 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If the Breamar is nearly fully booked, probably by Olsen regulars, I bet the Black Watch and Black Prince will be short of some passengers this year?

Maybe there will be some good offers available?


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Green
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posted 06-29-2001 07:23 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For what it's worth, here's what I get on the Olsen site http://www.fredolsencruises.co.uk/

[/QUOTE]HTTP Error 404

404 Not Found

The Web server cannot find the file or script you asked for. Please check the URL to ensure that the path is correct.

Please contact the server's administrator if this problem persists.

As you know, I'm on IE.


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Karsten
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posted 07-04-2001 02:19 PM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Found a real pic of Braemar in new colours in the web.

The driect link is:
http://www.cruiseship.de/bilder/braemar.JPG

Or vitit the the website at www.cruiseship.de

[ 07-04-2001: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-04-2001 06:43 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Karsten, nice picture, well found!

It looks like she is berthed next to the Berlin Wall!

I tried a 'Translation' web page to try and read the German text:

"The ship about talk tape only recently acquired and is now on the standard of the shipping company to be brought. Within the area of the after-body so mentioned a " Ducktail " is to be cultivated, around
the Stabilit."

I've no idea what that means?

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SteveBear
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posted 07-04-2001 07:47 PM      Profile for SteveBear   Email SteveBear   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're getting error messages trying to access the Fred Olsen site because the address provided in an earlier post is wrong. Try http://www.fredolsen.co.uk
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-05-2001 06:39 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
O.k. experts, can anyone provide me with the history of Olsen's original 'Braemar'?
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PamM
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posted 07-05-2001 04:06 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Braemar 1953 - 1975 Oslo-Kristiansand-Newcastle, 1975 sold to Philippines, renamed The Philippine Tourist.
4,776

from: www.theshipslist.com

'A streamlined beauty of very advanced, even yacht-like appearance'

Pam


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 07-05-2001 04:53 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Pam, I notice that Olsen's first ship was 1907.

I wonder what happened to the original Braemar from 1975 onwards?

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posted 07-05-2001 05:35 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

"M/S Braemar, built in 1980 for Viking line as Viking Song. Purchased in 1985 by Fred. Olsen Lines, she initially worked the Harwich to Kristiansand, Hitshals and Oslo route. In 1990 she switched ports and started working the Norway service from the Tyne. This service has since ceased and the vessel has been sold."
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/green/goi03/NorthSeaRoute/ships.shtml

This is a very interesting site, with info and pics on Black Prince in her former 'dual guise' too.

Pam

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PamM
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posted 07-05-2001 06:03 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm:
Thanks Pam, I notice that Olsen's first ship was 1907.
]

I think it might have been before that. One source mentions that the Olsens commenced passenger services as Faerder Limited in 1886 becoming Fred Olsen & Company in 1901.

But another site mentions "The foundations of the present firm of Fred. Olsen & Co. Were laid in the middle of the 19th Century by the three brothers Frederik Christian, Petter and Andreas Olsen, of Hvidsten. Frederik Christian Olsen bought his first two sailing ships, the schooners Johanne Christie and Elizabeth in 1848. He died in 1875 having owned 22 sailing ships.
Petter Olsen's ship-owning career began in 1852 with the brig Thilda. In his lifetime
he owned a total of 16 sailing ships, besides part interests in several steam-ships.
Andreas Olsen bought the barque De Tre Venner in 1860 and subsequently owned five other sailing ships.
Petter Olsen's son Fredrik in 1886,took over the management of two of his father's ships. By then the Olsen's had owned nearly 40 vessels."

I also found reference to another Braemar, a 1,297 gross ton ship launched in March 1868, commissioned for use as a feeder vessel for the Allan Line between Newcastle and Norway. Wondered if there was any connection there, but Olsen only lay claim to 2 previous Braemar's, so maybe not.

Pam


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