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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 11-26-2000 02:07 PM

There is no stopping Carnival. Here are there proposed newbuilds:

Carnival Spirit - April, 2001
Carnival Pride - January, 2002
Carnival Legend - summer, 2002
Carnival Conquest - Fall, 2002
Carnival Glory - summer, 2003
Carnival Miracle - spring, 2004
Carnival Valor - fall, 2004

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gizmo
First Class Passenger
Member # 972

posted 11-26-2000 05:51 PM

I wonder what is going to be so miraculous about the "Miracle"!

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geno-r
First Class Passenger
Member # 931

posted 11-26-2000 06:06 PM

It'll be a miracle if it gets made LOL

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BigUFan
First Class Passenger
Member # 1382

posted 11-28-2000 11:24 AM

Sounds to me like a line looking to unload its older ships.

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Winner
First Class Passenger
Member # 1188

posted 11-28-2000 05:55 PM

The Spirit, Pride and Legend? Does Carnival think the same names will fool cruisers into believing they are sailing on Seabourn ships at Carnival prices? Next it will be Carnival Caronia or Carnival (fill in the blank)dam.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 11-28-2000 06:51 PM

Interesting point Winner! Carnival probably owns sebourne anyway? Or do they - I can't remember?

I've never cruised on Carnival so I'm certainly not going to 'Bash' them, in fact I admire their success. However, I find their ships to be some of the least interesting of the modern ship.

Even a newbuild like Millennium provoke a lot of love and hate, but the Carnival ships seem to come and go with little emotion! They all seem to lack character.

Or am I talking garbage...

[This message has been edited by Malcolm (edited 11-28-2000).]

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 11-28-2000 07:05 PM

Maybe the 'Glory' and the 'Miracle' will be used for Religous theme cruises?

Carnival had the first 'no-smoking' ship. Maybe the Miracle and Glory are to be the first two 'no devil worshiping' ships!

What will be next, the 'Carnival Celibate'? Now that will not be a 'fun' ship!

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nathan
First Class Passenger
Member # 720

posted 11-28-2000 07:12 PM

Well, Malcolm, you're right in a sense. Carnival's newbuilds don't garner much positive emotion on these boards (they do on others). But look at what Travelpage's own editors said about the Carnival Destiny:

"This is a ship that doesn't have a history. This is a ship that has made history. Indeed, coming in as the world's first passenger cruise ship to register more than 100,000 gross tons would be ample enough a feat to keep her in the record books forever....but, like her size, there is so much more about this amazing ship that ought to keep her in the news for decades to come. While it is true that any student of architecture could easily trace her origins back to her fleetmate TROPICALE, a ship less than a third the size of the trendy behemoth CARNIVAL DESTINY, similarities among all classes of Carnival's Fun Ships abound. But lets talk about the DESTINY, because as amazing a ship as she is, we haven't seen enough written about her. She deserves a greater share of attention than she has already garnered...and with her slightly larger sister CARNIVAL TRIUMPH in service with her, and with two more sisters soon to come, we surely hope that the CARNIVAL DESTINY will be remembered for more than just being their eldest sister, the first ship in this class."

Check out the review -- there are a lot more accolades, and a lot more positive comparisons to the Grand Princess. Indeed, if you read this Board's own professional reviews, Carnival's new ships are considered much more innovative than Princess or RCI. I've sailed on two of them, and they are very impressive.

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jwine
First Class Passenger
Member # 634

posted 11-28-2000 08:53 PM

Malcolm - yes Carnival does own Seabourn and all those "dam" ships also, along with Windstar and last but not least Cunard!!!
I have cruised on the Destiny and thought it to a great ship, the ship was laid out well, easy to get from point A to B, not like some where you have to traverse the whole ship to get to the other end. Have toured quite a few and they certainly do not lack character.
You should check them out sometime, you might be pleasantly surprised. I was!

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CRUISOLOGY
First Class Passenger
Member # 1693

posted 11-29-2000 04:30 AM

I am planning on the Carnical Victory in May of 01. Why? it is coming to my home for a five day to the Bahama's. Charleston gets several ship a year docking but they are in transit and the locals can't on board. Should be enjoyable just driving 3 miles to the port and not flying. Give Carnival credit for more departure ports than other cruise line.

And, because Carnival has so many berths to fill you can just take a cruise with a two weeks planning instead of 6 months or more out.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 11-29-2000 07:41 AM

Jwine, Carnival cruises are not really marketed in the UK! There is not a British version of the Brouchure as far as I'm aware?

I don't doubt that the Carnival product is very good. I don't doubt that the 'Densiny' was a very important newbuild. Their ships just don't turn me on - but yes, I should try them!

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Paddy
First Class Passenger
Member # 357

posted 11-29-2000 02:05 PM

Malcolm,
I have looked to book a Carnival cruise here, and you are right, there is hardly anything. First Choice feature some of their cruises (very limited, just on the Fantasy I think)in the big cruise brochure (they did last year anyway), and I think Thomson do the same (they both sell ROC and Commodore etc. in the same brochures), and I know Airtours do a bigger selection in their specila Airtours/Carnival brochures, and I think a smaller selection in their Florida brochure. I have looked but found very little.

Paddy.

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DanP2k
First Class Passenger
Member # 1877

posted 03-24-2001 04:30 PM

Ya, I can See it now...

Carnival Pridedam
Carnival Spirit of the Seas

The Best though is,

Carnival Valordam LOL

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