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Topic: Woman jumps off Carnival ship!

RICHARD CHUDY
First Class Passenger
Member # 1323

posted 08-21-2000 03:32 PM

Last week a man jumped, fell or was pushed off the Elation and was never found. This week-end a woman jumped off the Holiday! The "person overboard" call was issued at 11:05 p.m. Friday, and the the body was found in the water at 1:30 a.m. Saturday. The determation that the death was suicide was made by the FBI after interviews with witnesses. I have been on 49 cruises, my 50th next month and have never encountered anything like this. Has anyboby heard of this going on in thier cruise travel?

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 08-21-2000 03:52 PM

Richard,

I did a quick scan over the Cruise News articles over the past couple of years and found a number of instances where passengers went overboard in some manner...

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Cruise News 1/12/98 - Carnival - an adult male passenger reportedly fell overboard from Carnival's Fantasy on Thursday. The ship was approximately 90 miles southeast from Port Canaveral, FL when the passenger somehow fell from a table over the railing. The passenger was feared drowned after an extensive search of the area by the ship and the Coast Guard was unable to find him.

Cruise News 3/30/98 - According to the FBI, a 23 year old passenger aboard Royal Caribbean's, MV Rhapsody of the Seas was presumed to have fallen overboard as the ship left the Port of Curacao, in the souther Caribbean.

Cruise News 4/27/98 - A 77 year old British passenger was reported missing from the P&O cruise ship Victoria after the ship arrived at the Caribbean island of Bonaire.

Cruise News 7/12/99 - A passenger on board the Grand Princess was reported missing off the coast of Hydra, Greece this week during a 12-day cruise between Istanbul and Barcelona.

Cruise News 7/21/99 - A 22 year old boy was reported missing from the July 4th sailing of the Carnival Destiny.

Cruise News 2/7/00 - From our...another bad idea from the movie "Titanic" file... a 20-year old passenger was rescued by the U.S. Coast Guard after falling overboard from a location near the bow of Royal Caribbean's Nordic Empress. According to Coast Guard officials the passenger, Erick Angel of Phoenix was rescued by helicopter early in the morning last Saturday about 12 miles northwest of St. Thomas. At the time of the rescue it was estimated that he had spent more than two hours in the water.

Cruise News 4/10/00 - In other Carnival news, a man reportedly jumped off the Jubilee early Tuesday morning

Cruise News 5/01/00 - The recent spate of passengers falling from cruise ships continued last week, this time with deadly consequences. On Friday, Coast Guard officials reported that a 43-year-old male passenger jumped, or fell overboard from Royal Caribbean's Sovereign of the Seas as she was returning to Miami.

Cruise News 8/14/00 - A 42 year old male passenger was reported missing from Carnival's Elation last week. The FBI confirmed that the passenger, John Conaty, was reported missing at approximately 2:30 p.m. on July 31 while the ship was cruising off the coast of Mexico

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Unfortunately, it seems to happen fairly regularly...

Joe at TravelPage.com

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RICHARD CHUDY
First Class Passenger
Member # 1323

posted 08-21-2000 04:04 PM

WOW...Thanks for the info Joe. I can't understand why anyone would spend all that money on a cruise just to jump off the ship! What's up with that?!! A cheap bottle of sleeping pills will do the trick. I hope no one jumps off my cruise next month. That would kind of put a damper on things...especially for the one who jumped!

Sorry, I guess that's not funny.
Richard

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sympatico
First Class Passenger
Member # 797

posted 08-21-2000 04:28 PM

I have never seen/heard of anyone jumping off the ships I have been on. However, on one of my cruises I stood at the rail talking to a lady who was very depressed and down and she told me she wanted to jump overboard as she had cancer in her eye and it was to be removed when she returned home. I talked to her for quite a while and while she did nothing on that cruise, I have no idea what happened to her when she got home. We never know what is going on in other people's minds.
The only person I know of who did jump off a ship was a man who was picked up in the Canal
by a HAL ship, on which my friend was the Chief Engineer, and after getting him some clothes, giving him a cabin and arranging for him to have lunch with the CE and his wife, he jumped overboard and was again rescued, after putting up quite a fight with the crew who were sent to save him. Turned out he was a mental patient. LizB - do you remember this?

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kbozman
First Class Passenger
Member # 642

posted 08-22-2000 10:22 AM

Hi Richard,

I laughed when I read your post to
Joe. You said "why would anyone spend
that kind of money" Think about it
for a minute.... when you plan on
killing yourself you surely will
not need any money where your going !!

Kbozman.

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RICHARD CHUDY
First Class Passenger
Member # 1323

posted 08-22-2000 12:42 PM

Kbozman,
You are so correct...in todays Long Beach paper there is a report that the woman removed all her clothing (everything) to include her earings, dentures, put her purse and camera in a neat pile, climed through the railing screamed and jumped. So the fact that she left her purse there I guess she thought the same. Don't need any money where she's going! How strange.
Richard

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Steamboat Willie
First Class Passenger
Member # 1488

posted 08-22-2000 02:51 PM

Excuse my ignorance here, (first cruise coming up in a couple of months), but is it in any way easy to "fall off" a cruise ship? I mean, I get the intentional jump off, but to "fall off"? One must have to work their way through a lot of barriers to actually "fall off" a ship, correct? Otherwise, I could picture this happening a lot and especially to kids and intoxicated passengers.

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NAbbott
First Class Passenger
Member # 1522

posted 08-22-2000 03:21 PM

My opinion is they had to really TRY to manage to "fall off" the ship. That or they were helped off, which is also hard to believe.

They had to be doing something extremely careless!

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RICHARD CHUDY
First Class Passenger
Member # 1323

posted 08-22-2000 03:54 PM

Hmmmmm.....to bad Jack Dawson was not there to save her like he did Rose

I go on my 50th cruise next month and don't see how any one could just fall off a ship! Even in rough seas, that's way they lock all the outer doors, so people don't get washed overboard. One has to be very careless or very drunk to fall off a ship. This post is interesting.
Richard

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hooked on cruising
First Class Passenger
Member # 1221

posted 08-22-2000 04:51 PM

While on the Bolero this past March we watched as a very very drunk passenger tried to walk along the edge of the deck bumping into tables as he went. It was a very rough sailing that night and we were incountering a bit of a storm I'm not complaining my husband and I share a love of storms, and we get some beauties here in Southwestern Ontario. We had decided to come out onto the deck properly dressed of course for the weather to enjoy the storm, there were a few other crazy passengers out and there was this guy still in his swim shorts and without a shirt. He fell into a table with two ladies at it spilling all there drinks, this was when we all realised he was drunk, at first we thought he was finding it hard to walk with the huge swaying off the ship. I swear he almost fell overboard a couple of times before my husband mentioned him to the crew who came and escorted him inside. As we watched this he went in one door said goodnight to the crew and promtly turned and came out the other door. I think they ended up escorting him to his room. But seriously though he could have fallen over board and no-one would even have known.

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Baker
First Class Passenger
Member # 1311

posted 08-23-2000 09:46 PM

Just to understand what its like to FALL off a ship, we had an Irish pantryman on the old Oriana, whilst in port in Sydney he got very drunk and went up on to the crewdeck,up on the bow where our swimming pool is, he jumped up on the guard rail and tried to walk along it,

he fell overboard and splashed into the water. When he was fished out and sent back to work, he told us, he was sober before he hit the water and could not breath as he plummetted down, and was very scared.
He didnt try it again

P.S. Crew members disappear over the side too, but its not mentioned much.. B

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