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Topic: Ugly Fleet?

Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-12-2000 05:32 PM

Costa Cruises should congratulate themselves for having the ugliest fleet on the high seas.

I dislike just about all there ships external appearance. Even an artists impression of the newbuild CostaAtlantica, looks awful, and I just hate the funnel shape and colour.

CostaAtlantica

Check out the fleet for yourself: http://www.costacruises.com/Fleet1.html

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 07-12-2000 05:48 PM

Festival's Mistral. Costa should purchase this ship, it would fit in with the rest of their fleet perfectly!

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Paddy
First Class Passenger
Member # 357

posted 07-12-2000 06:12 PM

Malcolm!!!So totally uncalled for!!! I think Costa's newer ships are infact some of the most beautiful newbuilds, especially Atlantica, which has a rather beautiful and flowing stern. There is no denying Mistral's aesthetic shortcomings, but I am very fond of Costa's ships (except maybe the old container ships which apparently have beautiful interiors). I like their funnels too, very distinctive.

Paddy.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 07-12-2000 06:39 PM

Paddy, I'm afraid that we will have to 'agree' to 'disagree'

Comments anyone?

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gohaze
First Class Passenger
Member # 586

posted 07-12-2000 07:46 PM

Malcolm...I tend to agree with you. just another example of the total lack of imagination of today's naval architects. See how many decks you can stack up on a given hull. Take Princess for example...the Star was the first with that hull design - excellent too, then they put one more deck on it to get the Crown with the same lxb and the Sun with the same breadth and a little more length + one more deck.
Costa had no outside decks or balconies to relieve the bland look..NCL even stuck balconies on the outside of that Costa hull they got!! terrible...
Give me the look of a REAL ship with a sheer and even a camber like the Marco Polo to enjoy, although I saw one woman complaining she didn't like that ship because the decks sloped up and down!!!!
Still, "Middle America" wants its destination holiday centre with all the amenities of home (where's MacDonalds) and a different island every day, so that's what the companies are catering to....another floating Hyatt...peter

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vulcania
First Class Passenger
Member # 822

posted 07-12-2000 09:27 PM

I still think the COSTA CLASSICA and COSTA ROMANTICA are magnificent vessels...and remind you as my Travel Page review says... the CLASSICA is the most exciting ship I had seen in thirty years. My opinion, period.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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Member # 301

posted 07-13-2000 06:37 AM

Vulcania, you are very welcome to your opinion. Classica and Romantica are certainly better looking than ALL of the rest of the Costa fleet!

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vulcania
First Class Passenger
Member # 822

posted 07-13-2000 09:14 AM

A question for Malcolm and others? Have you seen these two Costa liners at underway at sea, close up from the deck of another ship? Have you seen them at the dock? Broadside from the deck of another ship? Or only from photographs? I must tell you that before I saw the CLASSICA and knew her only from photographs I thought she was awful-looking. "Meeting" her in person changed my mind immeasurably. I did see the MISTRAL from another ship and at the dock and she is, well, not even homely...she looks rather like a refrigerator on its side...

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BigUFan
First Class Passenger
Member # 1382

posted 07-13-2000 10:18 AM

It doesn't really have that much to do with architectural imagination. It's all about money, and the boxier the ship, the more habitable space, the more money is made and saved. Look, I don't have a problem with making money. If my company didn't, I'd be out of a job (and possibly my home as well). But I would think that a line needs to be drawn somewhere. I guess we're the minority, so we lose either way.

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2kewl4u
First Class Passenger
Member # 1421

posted 07-13-2000 11:10 AM

It's all about taste. Some people will like a cruise ship, and some people won't. Personally, I do not like the outside appearance of Festival's Mistral. It looks like a giant square.

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Patrick
First Class Passenger
Member # 364

posted 07-13-2000 01:38 PM

Where are the former classic Costa-ships...nothing was better than what they had before.
Now they go straightly towards Carnival which I don´t really like.
No more real Italian style, no more European flair but too much Las Vegas style...

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cruiseman
First Class Passenger
Member # 885

posted 07-13-2000 01:43 PM

Well Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

Personally I like the looks of the new Costa Atlantica. I like the looks of the Grand Princess and Carnival's Destiny Class ships.

If we all liked the same thing why would there be a need for all these cruise lines?

Maybe we should all live in a white house and drive a white chevorlet....NO THANKS!

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CB
First Class Passenger
Member # 58

posted 07-13-2000 05:09 PM

Cruiseman, I couldn't have said it any better.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-13-2000 06:54 PM

I do live in a white house and drive a white chevorlet, what's wrong with that?

Vulcania, I've only seen photos! However in my experience many cruise ship look better in the brouchure photos than they do in the 'flesh'! But I accept your point.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I'm not beholding much in this case!

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gizmo
First Class Passenger
Member # 972

posted 07-14-2000 06:53 AM

They are ugly! Saw one in Port Everglades last March.

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mrblanche
First Class Passenger
Member # 714

posted 07-14-2000 08:54 AM

I have found Costa's ship's to be visually exciting, at least close up, when I've seen them in St. Thomas. However, those two "staggered" stacks close to each other are a little odd.

But no odder than the Grand Princess's "hamster track" up to the '69 Dodge Daytona spoiler.

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2kewl4u
First Class Passenger
Member # 1421

posted 07-14-2000 09:29 AM

Like I said, everybody has different tastes. And I still think that the Mistral looks like a giant square!

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EricCruises-RBCCL
First Class Passenger
Member # 1396

posted 07-15-2000 06:37 PM

Malcom--since you say Costa Atlantica and others of Costa are ugly....Lets see you design one your self..I think they are beutiful very much Atlantic

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cruznut6
First Class Passenger
Member # 543

posted 07-16-2000 08:57 AM

Malcolm

If you want to see ugly, look at RCCL's ship the Viking Serenade. It looks like a bus being driven backwards. I don't know why they chose this style;thank God they changed their design for the next generation of ships

regards

Bob

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gohaze
First Class Passenger
Member # 586

posted 07-16-2000 09:38 AM

Well, she was built as a Baltic ferry- Scandinavia -not a cruise ship. After an unsuccessful episode when she ran from New York to the Bahamas - you could take your car and transfer to another ship to Miami - she came to the West Coast as the Stardancer to replace the Sundancer which had hit the beach on the way to Alaska (that ship had a real history of bad luck) and was then bought by RCI.
So, not really in the competition, and their new Atlantica only looks different because she's really a Carnival ship....peter

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 07-16-2000 09:40 AM

Cruznut6, when I want to see 'ugly' all I need to do is look in the mirror!

(..in my white house.)

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cruiseny
First Class Passenger
Member # 2928

posted 07-30-2002 04:09 PM

Hello,

Just "thumbing" through old threads to find any good ones I could revive (see my post "Too Quiet" in this forum) to get a bit more activity.

This one looked interesting.

Happy Cruising,
Cruiseny

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Italian Cruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 1684

posted 07-31-2002 08:06 AM

Costa Cruises has today a very eclectic fleet.
The first four newbuildings ( Marina, Allegra, Classica and Romantica ) are fine ships,true italian style, but have a very traditional layout ( the lack of private balconies is disappointing ). The Costa Victoria and the Tropicale are very ugly, but offer nice interiors.
The Costa Atlantica is a stunning ship but her interiors are " american style ", not italian ( the ship doesn't offer some traditional features like a walk-around promenade or an observation lounge ).The " new " Costa Europa is an elegant ship, bur her aspect is very very ugly ( the cinema located on the upper deck, under the whelhouse is simply a non sense ).
The most exciting newbuildings, with a very good looking, are the Radiance and the Brilliance of the Seas, the Seven Seas Mariner and the Seven Seas Explorer. Other ships are too boxy for my tastes...

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titanicsteve
First Class Passenger
Member # 2142

posted 07-31-2002 02:32 PM

mmmmm I think I agree with Malcolm and Paddy! They are not the prettiest but not the ulglyiest! I think that the only thing that lets them all down is the pathetic excuses for funnels!! I think they look so silly! Also I cant help but wonder why the designers for all these ships have left a huge chuck from the top decks right back! Looks like they reversed under a bridge too small for them.

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DOWNDIE
First Class Passenger
Member # 1517

posted 07-31-2002 03:15 PM

In my humble opinion the most attractive of the recent newbuilds are ROC's Olympia Voyager and Explorer,even though they are tiny compared to the mammoths. I watched the Voyager leave the dock at Rhodes last September and disappear on the horizon in no time flat. Quite a site.

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