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We may discuss the early days at Carnival as well as what lays ahead for the largest cruise company in the world. Who knows what Mr. Dickinson may reveal to our listeners??? So if you had a question for Bob Dickinson what would it be?
I did not know that Ted fired him some years back! His comments on NCL, RCI, Pinnacle and the future growth of Carnival were very interesting.
[ 03-27-2008: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
Once again good job!
Pam
many thanksElad
IMO a ship with many sea days 150k tons is fine; more to do than many small cities. Ships with intensive port itineraries; give me 30k tons and 700 passengers
quote:Originally posted by desirod7:I like what he said that Royal Carribean is in a size war with itself. He did note that ships beyond a size reach a point of diminishing returns and logistical hurdles.
Yes, but watch Carnival build a bigger ship than Genesis in the future!
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Yes, but watch Carnival build a bigger ship than Genesis in the future!
Exactly! Then it will be a different story. It was even a different story when QM2 was built as the largest, widest, tallest, most expensive, etc.
Personally I don't think RCI is in a size war with itself. They simply have a different philosophy regarding their product, what people want, how they want to be positioned, and what will provide them the best ROI.
Even Bob Dickinson (who is a brilliant man BTW) stated that Carnival's number crunchers may have different results than RCI. Everyone looks at things a little differently. I don't think it's a matter of one company being right and the other wrong, just a different business model. Even Carnival has considered a very large ship, Project Pinnacle. They would not have spent all the time and effort to develop such a project if they did suspect a very good ROI. Frankly I think right now it's just too much money to develop and build Project Pinnacle with the exchange, etc. Some years from now the economic climate will be different and Pinnacle may once again be considered.
Aren't you glad all cruise companies don't think the same way? It would be a pretty boring industry wouldn't it?
Ernie
That said excellent interview Barry.
Greetings Ben.
quote: At 15.22 min.mister Dickinson told that Carnival invented the horizontal deck layout.
He also said that after that , few other cruise lines built ships horizontaly as well. The strage thing is, that RCCL launch the Monarch and sisters ships, they built it with lounges and public rooms placed aft. It happened 6 years after Carnival presented the Tropicale.
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