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joe at travelpage
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posted 09-14-2010 11:17 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Stumbled upon a site selling a model of a "Jet engine powered Cruise Ship Catamaran".


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It looks like this was built by Douglas Aircraft Company so it's not just some guy with a whacky idea.

Anyone know any more?

Joe at TravelPage.com


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joe at travelpage
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posted 09-14-2010 11:22 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok, I found more information. Apparently this was for sale earlier this year on E-bay. From that listing:


Douglas Aircraft Matson Cruise Ship Line Factory Model
Cruise Ship Jet Powered Catamaran Lurline Matsonia 60's

Rare Original Matson Cruise Lines Proposal Model

Model: Jet engine powered Cruise Ship Catamaran.

Manufacture: Douglas Aircraft Factory Model.

Description: This one off model, is from the estate of the late R. J. Pfeiffer who was the the CEO and later the Chairman of Matson Shipping. The model was created by Douglas Aircraft in the early to mid 1960's (prior to the merger with McDonnell) as a Proposed Jet engine powered Cruise Ship Catamaran for Matson Cruise Lines. Each hull is named after two other historic cruise ships that once flew the Matson Cruise Lines Flag.. the Lurline and the Matsonia. This model was a gift from Donald Douglas to Robert Pheiffer. For more information on R. F. Pfeiffer click on: http://www.matson.com/press/press_release.cfm?id=106

Dimensions: The length is 10.5 inches long with a width of 7.25 inches

Condition: Excellent - original paint and decals, with a few light scratches and tiny chip out of the wing. The model is made out of cast resin and mounted on a plexiglass custom base. The model is complete with its original Douglas Aircraft wooden carrying case. This model is a rare find!!!


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posted 09-14-2010 12:47 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is absolutely awesome.

The jet engines right in front of each other are a bit strange and I would not have expected that from Douglas - but who cares - it looks good.

I guess the only way to top that would be a model of a nuclear powered jet engined cruise ship steered by a robot pilot with the most powerful electronic brain in existence - just how one would expect traveling to be in the late 1970ies.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 09-14-2010 03:24 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe,

It reminds me of Russia's once secret Ekranoplan, known as the 'Caspian Sea Monster':

(Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Nu94khHoo&feature=related

(Part 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvyXdcLRfFs&feature=related

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joe at travelpage
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posted 09-14-2010 05:15 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
This is absolutely awesome.

The jet engines right in front of each other are a bit strange and I would not have expected that from Douglas - but who cares - it looks good. ...


Here's a link to a patent for a "Winged Ground Effect Machine" which looks very similar.

From what it says in the patent the objects on the wings are more fan-like than traditional jet engines.

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Cambodge
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posted 09-14-2010 05:29 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I expect that the noise from the engines would only be exceeded by the appetite for fuel! Passengers would be carried the the two hulls, I assume.

I would love to see a new "Lurline," but that is not it!


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PamM
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posted 09-14-2010 05:40 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Forgive my non-engineering aeronautical skills but what effect would that 2nd engine have, being directly behind the 1st with the airflow turbulance?

Pam


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Ernst
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posted 09-14-2010 05:51 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:

Here's a link to a patent for a "Winged Ground Effect Machine" which looks very similar. [...]


Thanks for the link. It indeed seems that these pods on the wings are not housing jet engines but fans diverting air downwards. Such vehicles can have a hard time to take off - maybe the inventor hoped to create more lift this way.


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posted 09-15-2010 07:07 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
Joe,

It reminds me of Russia's once secret Ekranoplan, known as the 'Caspian Sea Monster':

(Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Nu94khHoo&feature=related

(Part 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvyXdcLRfFs&feature=related

[ 09-14-2010: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


Now THERE is a classic! A couple of prototypes still exist (either on display in museums or derelict). The actual craft that became known as the "Caspian sea monster" was unfortunately lost in an accident, but the massive Ekranoplan Lun (carrying missiles!) is still lying derelict in a dock along the Caspian Sea coast:

http://afghanistansquid.blogspot.com/2010/09/weird-weapons-lun-class-ekranoplan.html

[ 09-15-2010: Message edited by: rd77 ]


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Frosty 4
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posted 09-15-2010 06:54 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This model is probably powered by 2 ducted fan electric brushless motors as are the prop driven systems. Lithium polymer batteries. Control by radio (2.4ghz spread spectrum) for rudder and throttle control.
We use the same stuff for R/C aircraft.(my hobby among others)
BTW jet turbine engines are available for model use--cost starting at $2500 up.
The fastest recorded turbine powered R/C jet aircraft is 385MPH.
Frosty 4

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LeBarryboat
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posted 09-15-2010 10:10 PM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if that model was something similar to the Caspian Sea Monster? By the way, I never knew anything about that russian machine that screams across the ocean at 400 MPH....wow!
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posted 11-05-2010 12:12 PM      Profile for Lubber     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:
I expect that the noise from the engines would only be exceeded by the appetite for fuel!

I'm not so sure... jets might be the thriftiest option, considering how badly submerged props or jets would cavitate trying to get a high-speed cat like this up to 250 knots!


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