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sslewis
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posted 11-17-2003 07:58 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Still stunned by the horrible news at Chantiers.
It could not have been the wind or tide as the ship itself was firmly drydocked!
So, the gangway was perhaps overloaded.
Think, 40 people on 10 meters of lightweight gangway.
It is made by Entel.
Anyone has heard of them?
ssLewis, investigating

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posted 11-18-2003 05:30 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Endel is part of the Industrial Installations and Maintenance business unit of Tractebel which is the energy division of SUEZ.

According to the SUEZ web site, at one point Endel was the leader in the French market for sale and rental of scaffolding and shoring equipment althouth they sold some of that business off last year.

The company employs hundreds of workers and did EUR 80 million in 2001.

What I find hard to understand is how such a structure could fail.

I guess I could understand if it was not secured properly to the ship or dock but that should have been easy to spot when it was set in place and witnesses seem to suggest a collapse in the middle.

It's also not clear to me whether it was a "traditional" gangway like the one pictured below that spans the space between the dock and the ship

or was it more of a scaffolding tower like the picture below suggests.

In any event, it looks like the one that collapsed was a replacement gangway that was put in place Friday evening. The original gangway was 3 ft wide and was replaced with the larger 4.5 ft wide gangway to allow more traffic.

Anybody with scaffolding or gangway experience have better information?

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posted 11-19-2003 11:03 AM      Profile for Ryndam   Email Ryndam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been walking on those "gangways" for months during my contracts on the Coral and on the Island. There is more than one access to the ship when she's in the shipyard; usually there is a scaffolding on the dock and a gangway between the scaffolding and the ship. Even at the final stage of the outfitting the gangways are supplied by the shipyard.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryndam:
...There is more than one access to the ship when she's in the shipyard; usually there is a scaffolding on the dock and a gangway between the scaffolding and the ship.

Is the gangway similar to the ones that cruise ships use when they tie up to a dock rather than a terminal - long metal ramp with rails on the sides and usually secured to the vessel?

If so, I have been on hudreds of those with lots of people and never even thought about it giving way.

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Yes, it's a metal ramp like the one used by ships when they tie up to a dock. The only difference is the length and the material: the ones used by ships are shorter and lighter (usually they are made of alluminum).

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