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Topic: Collapsable funnel

Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 02-10-2003 12:24 AM

Does anyone know why the Norwegian Dream needs a collapsable funnel in order to transit the Kiel Canal? Is there other ships that have this kind of a funnel?

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 02-10-2003 04:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
Does anyone know why the Norwegian Dream needs a collapsable funnel in order to transit the Kiel Canal? Is there other ships that have this kind of a funnel?

Simply because the Dream is one of the tallest passenger ships to regularly transit the Canal, which is a short-cut, saving milage and fuel.

Without the collapsable funnel, she would hit a bridge! I've no idea if other ships have this feature?

Some people have suggested that the QM2 should have a taller, but collapsable funnel!

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JP
First Class Passenger
Member # 1373

posted 02-10-2003 11:26 AM

Somewhere I heard that the Dream is the only ship with that kind of funnel. It is pretty common for riverboats to have that kind of thing, though; the American Queen has retractable funnels and wheelhouse.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 02-10-2003 06:29 PM

How does it actually work?

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Bobby G
First Class Passenger
Member # 49

posted 02-10-2003 07:23 PM

Keitaro
I made this cruise through the Keil Canal on the Dream in May 1999. It was quiet a sight for us(and the locals) watching the mast and funnel fold.

I posted some pictures on this on 12-24-2000 under "Cruise Ships". If you are interested the fastest way to find them are click on "search" (above right), down to Search Forum, click on "Cruise Ships", and use my Member number "49". They are listed under "Which Cruise Ships Have the Coolest Funnel?

Hope this works as this is the way I found them. Enjoy. BG

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 02-10-2003 08:18 PM

Thanks for the pics Bobby G!

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 02-11-2003 04:32 AM

Great photos. Hope you're reading this thread Michael.
Pam

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empressport
First Class Passenger
Member # 2511

posted 02-11-2003 09:47 AM

As built, didn't the Galilieo and Marconi have telescoping funnels, that could be raised and lowered?

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scherago
Just Boarded
Member # 3949

posted 02-10-2009 12:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
Does anyone know why the Norwegian Dream needs a collapsable funnel in order to transit the Kiel Canal? Is there other ships that have this kind of a funnel?

The Norwegian Dream and Norwegian Wind have both been sold. NCL no longer operates a ship through the Kiel Canal. My wife and I sailed on the Dream in 2003 to the Baltic capitals, and ours was the only time they offered us the option of leaving the ship at the start for a day's excursion to Hamburg; we met the ship at the other end of the canal in the evening. We also sailed on the Wind. Norwegian is our favorite cruise line.

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nycruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 960

posted 02-10-2009 07:35 AM

I sailed on the Galilieo in 89 and it did not appear that she had such a feature. Though I left from NYC on a cruise to Bermuda that feature would not have been utilized for that itinerary.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 02-10-2009 08:18 AM

Neither GUGLIELMO MARCONI nor GALILEO GALILEO had collapsible funnels--these were solid structures. The ships were built for the Italy-Australia trade, and there was no need for such devices; it would have been a moot point anyway, since the masts on both ships towered much higher than their funnels!

Rich

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Globaliser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4153

posted 02-10-2009 02:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bob scherago:
The Norwegian Dream and Norwegian Wind have both been sold. NCL no longer operates a ship through the Kiel Canal.

Who could have guessed that so much would happen in the short six years since the previous post on this thread!

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Jackreetings
First Class Passenger
Member # 4150

posted 02-11-2009 03:58 PM

From what I recall, Royal Caribbean's upcoming Oasis and Allure of the Seas will also have retractable funnels. In order to sail under the Great Belt Bridge and Verrazano Narrows.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 02-11-2009 09:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
Neither GUGLIELMO MARCONI nor GALILEO GALILEO had collapsible funnels--these were solid structures.
Rich

In Anthony Cooke's excellent book 'Emigrant Ships' there is an image of the Marconi w/the telescopic funnel cowl 'fully extended'. I have no idea why these ships needed telescopic funnel cowls as the mast was quite tall and did'nt seem to retract. It may have been designed to eliminate soot on the aft lido decks.

[ 02-11-2009: Message edited by: lasuvidaboy ]

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 02-12-2009 07:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
In Anthony Cooke's excellent book 'Emigrant Ships' there is an image of the Marconi w/the telescopic funnel cowl 'fully extended'. I have no idea why these ships needed telescopic funnel cowls as the mast was quite tall and did'nt seem to retract. It may have been designed to eliminate soot on the aft lido decks.
[ 02-11-2009: Message edited by: lasuvidaboy ]

Hmmm, I still don't think those cowls were moveable. Here is a study of sister-ship GALILEO's funnel:

While it appears that the top is mounted on extendable "legs", it truly was stationary on both ships. Every single photo I have of them, from 1963 through the 1980s shows their funnels in this configuration.

Rich

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 02-12-2009 01:14 PM

Hi Rich, that image looks like the cowl is fully extended. Maybe the system to raise the upper portion was not operating later and the cowl remained in the raised position. The pic and comment about the telescopic funnel cowl in the book (Emigrant liners) makes the entire upper portion appear higher than other images I've seen of the twin's funnels. I'll have to dig out a few of my ship books that feature the ships.

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