Welcome to Cruise Talk the Internet's most popular discussion forum dedicated to cruising. Stop by Cruise Talk anytime to post a message or find out what your fellow passengers and industry insiders are saying about a particular ship, cruise line or destination.
>>> Reader Reviews >>> CruisePage.com Photo Gallery >>> Join Our Cruise Club.
Latest News...As it continues to unveil its 2027/28 lineup, Carnival Cruise Line today announced plans for three homeports as it opened new sailings in Long Beach, Calif., Norfolk, Va. and Baltimore, Md. With seasonal cruises on Carnival Legend in Long Beach, Carnival will launch its first-ever dedicated series of Hawaii cruises. Carnival is also repositioning Carnival Freedom to Norfolk and extending Carnival Pride’s...
Latest News...Oceania Cruises, the world's leading culinary- and destination-focused luxury cruise line, presents more than 230 thoughtfully curated voyages, each offering immersive experiences in some of the world's most alluring and desirable destinations. Encompassing more than a year of itineraries across seven intimate, luxurious ships, sailings range from 7 to 96 days across all seven continents...
Latest News...Today, Holland America Line announced its 2027 Canada & New England season, featuring a collection of cruises designed to showcase the region's storied national parks and rich heritage — as well as a new itinerary dedicated to the area's iconic lighthouses. In addition to exploring UNESCO World Heritage sites and vibrant cities, guests can expect a front-row seat to the region's stunning scenery...
quote:Originally posted by sslewis:Anyone saw it?
Are they using the image of a capsized Arcadia for the adverts?? Here in the States, I see the posters everywhere. Today, I saw a huge upside down Arcadia on the Warner Brothers headquarters in Burbank, California.
quote:Originally posted by rcclcruiseaddict:I hated it the first time it came out. Doubt I'd watch it again.
In the original the 'Posiden' was based on the Queen Mary. There are some nice shots taken onboard the 'real' Queen Mary and a model of the Queen mary, in a tank, I suppose.
[ 05-04-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Do we know the gross tonnage of the new Poseidon?
The GRT is never mentioned in the film, nor in the film notes. But from the images of the ship, one can imagine that she's in the 100,000 GRT range. When you see the movie, you'll see that all of her balconies are quite huge, with relatively few numbers of them on each deck, reminding you of the style of the residential ships.
Rich
I noticed in the opening shot as they panned down the port side she had 16 lifeboats on that side. Even if each lifeboat only held 100 passengers, and there were a total of 32 lifeboats, she would carry 3200 passengers.
With all the CGI, how long does it take to display the credits at the end with the names of every computer programmer under the sun and their girlfriends, pet dogs, cats and hampsters? Soon the credits will get so long they won't have time to show a movie.
Brian
quote:Originally posted by sslewis:Was the Revell model of QM1 released duringthe original Poseidon movie?I wonder if Revell will do a special 1/400 model or at least a simple model of the vessel(s) featured in the advert?My local cinema has promised me a poster
I think that Revell model came out originally in the early 1960s. I have seen the original on Ebay and she was still in service when it came out. After The Posiedon Adventure came out in 1972, there was a surge of sales of this model. I had to have one and did a terrible job building it. I sank it in the pool so many times that the masts and 1/2 the lifeboats were lost. Thank goodness for Ebay as all the long discontinued models I destroyed in the 1970s were available one again.
quote:Originally posted by Brian_O:That Poseidon is quite a ship: no bridge wings, backward facing lifeboats and 4 undesized pods. How the heck did it ever get out of the shipyard?With all the CGI, how long does it take to display the credits at the end with the names of every computer programmer under the sun and their girlfriends, pet dogs, cats and hampsters? Soon the credits will get so long they won't have time to show a movie.Brian
With a cost of over $150 million dollars, I wish they had used a few large models for some scenes. In the film Titanic, the huge models gave a much more realistic look that the CGI ship. The film appears to be a flop in the States for the investors so I guess it does not matter.
The new Poseidon is undoubtedly QM2, but disguised. From the hull hole balconies, to the stern shape, 4 podded, Southampton registered, New York bound transatlantic liner.
Add to that the arrangement of windows in the hull (deck 3L?) and the arrangement of a tower of forward facing public bars, the inspiration is obvious. Yet plenty is different to keep the lawyers happy, not least the funnel and many of the other features including the Dining/ Ballroom. And the unusable top deck - where the railings mostly come only to waist height without windbreaks.
As the characters progress through the ship some of her more interesting quirks become clear. From the rear facing lifeboats (the rudders make clear this is the case), the bulkhead doors that the crew forget to close, but work upside down, the pods which were trying to turn the ship but still facing straight ahead. Although Petersen has done some homework, a bit more may have helped - doubtless noone will really notice.
The new Poseidon is capsized by a rogue wave in an otherwise calm sea, and in the post Tsunami world it isn't caused by an earth tremor, it just appears for no apparent reason.
The ships bridge from the outside has entirely plated over windows and some bridge wings, but when they get inside that isn't the bridge, its one deck lower, without wings since equipment lines the walls where the doors to the wings would be.
Some bits of the ship are from other vessels, not least the spectacular RCL atrium, which appears to be unique in not having and nearby staircases which the case could climb higher (lower).
An air conditioning duct replaces the funnel climb, with a grill at the end which rather conveniently appears to have only 1 screw holding it in, rather than 4!.
As the escape continues they have to keep heading forward and end up in the ballast tanks, but apparently the engine room spaces are in fact above (originally below) this.
Then there is the final escape, no comment except to say that its remarkable how well the electrics work under water except the one you really want....
Not to mention the continuity person who forgets that one of the cast was injured in the disco, 10 mins later his leg has healed and apparently even the rip in his jeans!
The film has 2 hilarious homages to the B list actors, with Kurt Russel's fireman stint commemorated as he enters the disco to rescue his daughter, backlit by an apparent inferno. But the funniest must be from Poseidon herself as she 'does a Jaws' just for Dreyfuss right at the end, complete with the potentially lethal teeth (turning props in the thruster) and then finlike.
Its not a particularly good film, the bow of new Poseidon is particularly obviously CGI, but its a must seen for shiplovers IMHO!
[ 06-04-2006: Message edited by: Matts ]
Freak waves can occure without any apparent reason.
It’s an action movie, no more, no less. It does not deliver great characterisations; great dialogue or great acting performances, but neither did the original, did it? However the effects including explosions, fire and tons of water were very realistic, in general, and greatly superior to the original movie. The new movie sticks reasonably close to the original movies plot.
The recreation of a ‘modern’ cruise ship was excellent. It all looked very real to me. The QM2 was obviously the inspration as the Queen Mary was for the original movie.
The Poseidon’s Dining Room and Ballroom were clearly inspired by the QM2’s. The atrium was very reminiscent of many modern mega-ships and was used to good effect for action sequences.
There were a number of technical inaccuracies about a ships construction, but that’s artistic licence. This is NOT a movie for naval architects.
Of course one is bound to compare the movie with Cameron’s Titanic. I must conclude that Cameron’s movie is in a different class to ‘Poseidon’. Cameron managed to re-create a slice of maritime history pretty accurately, included excellent action sequences and special effect. However he also managed to include good characters, dialogue and a story. Titanic delivered the full package.
As for the Posiedon cast, I though that Emmy Rossum was a real ‘babe’ and played a 'Kate Winslett' very well. She could not get wet enough as far as I was concerned!
The new Poseidon movie was only about 1 hour 40 minutes long, which was long enough. Never the less, it did entertained me and that is all that I required from it. However, as soon as I’d left the movie theatre, I’d forgotten it!
[ 06-04-2006: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage: This is NOT a movie for navel architects.]
This is NOT a movie for navel architects.
]
Would those be specialists in bellybutton reconstructions?
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:Would those be specialists in bellybutton reconstructions? Rich
Point Taken!
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:As for the Posiedon cast, I though that Emmy Rossum was a real ‘babe’ and played a 'Kate Winslett' very well. She could not get wet enough as far as I was concerned!
Was she wearing a tight fitting white T-shirt?
quote:Originally posted by Brian_O:Was she wearing a tight fitting white T-shirt?
Not tight enough!
Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3
More Vacation & Cruise Specials...