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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 04-03-2006 10:02 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Only ships before 1970 apply, but what ships are just so ugly they leave you wondering what the designers were thinking.

I'll start it off with the QE2 and her origional funnel.

And yes, the Oriana. She was pretty ugly.


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posted 04-03-2006 10:08 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelangelo and Raffaelo - the only out of proportion Italian built ships I know.

I prefere QE2 in her original appearance. Her fat funnel is sooo ugly.


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 04-03-2006 10:15 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelangelo and Raffaello?!?!?

Theyre two of the most beautiful(exteriorly) larger ships built after the United States. Not to outdo the France though.


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posted 04-03-2006 10:48 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They are not well proportioned - too long forecastle, funnels too close to the stern - the only Italian ship I do not like that much. (...and I LOVE quite all Italian built ships ) BTW: I also do not consider the United States to be a beautiful ship - she is special of course, but not a beauty. (the funnels are too big)

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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 04-03-2006 11:09 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
(the funnels are too big)

[ 04-03-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]


You can say that again. That's another what were they thinking ship. She has a great profile except for those funnels. They're gigantic!


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posted 04-03-2006 11:39 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:

You can say that again. That's another what were they thinking ship. She has a great profile except for those funnels. They're gigantic!


They actually were "sold" as safety feature - increasing the visibility of a fast ship. Personally, I am not so sure about that, as this would be a lot of drag just for external appearance.


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posted 04-03-2006 11:56 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My vote goes to the PASTEUR of 1939:

Although her interiors were innovative and interesting, her exterior was spoiled by the single, over-sized funnel placed far forward--she always looked "wrong." Even the Germans, when they softened her funnel during the transformation to BREMEN, did not bother to balance her profile.

Rich


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 04-03-2006 12:05 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And her stern looked like that of a ferry or livestock boat.(Pasteur)

As for the United States, I think they also meant those funnels to make the ship look powerful. The bigger the funnels the bigger the engines. Or at least that's what they hoped the public would think.

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Onno
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posted 04-03-2006 04:33 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:
I'll start it off with the QE2 and her origional funnel. .


What is wrong with QE2’s original well thought out funnel?

It follows the rule form follows function without loosing sight on style. Too bad that traditionalist can’t handle anything differed than a red can with black bands but mind you that James Gardner and his team had the same design principle in mind that of an ocean liner being a representation of setting new modern deign trends.

Unlike today’s over designed funnels the original QE2’s funnel got her beauty from her simplicity. The design was good enough to keep it after they re-engined her in the late 80’s and even good enough to force a weak abbreviation onto QM2’s out takes.

Onno


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Brian_O
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quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Michelangelo and Raffaelo - the only out of proportion Italian built ships I know.

I prefere QE2 in her original appearance. Her fat funnel is sooo ugly.


I prefer her old funnel too, but in its original appearance rather than the post-Falklands Cunard colours version.

As for ugliest? Oriana. That ship makes some of today's ugliest ships look good.

Brian


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 04-03-2006 06:09 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Onno:


Too bad that traditionalist can’t handle anything differed than a red can with black bands Onno


Actually, I'm not that fond of the traditional funnel with bands. I like the funnels fro the sixties. France, Kungsholm, Raffaello, just not QE2. And of course who couldn't like Normandie's funnels.


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