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oddessea
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posted 06-10-2003 12:52 PM      Profile for oddessea     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you think the SARS scare will affect the number of cruisers on the run?
What are they doing with all passengers from this cruise? with all that recirulated air, are more likely to get it?

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Green
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posted 06-10-2003 02:31 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oddessea:
Do you think the SARS scare will affect the number of cruisers on the run?
What are they doing with all passengers from this cruise? with all that recirulated air, are more likely to get it?

"cruisers on the run"?

Passengers from which cruise?


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joe at travelpage
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posted 06-10-2003 04:03 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a rumor that an elderly passenger on board the Volendam had SARS. If you read some news groups or other boards you would have thought it was the end of cruising.

It turns out she most likely does not have SARS.

Here's a summary from CBC:

quote:
VANCOUVER - A Canadian cruise ship passenger remains in hospital after being ordered ashore half-way through a week-long Alaska cruise after showing some signs of SARS.

But doctors say it's unlikely the elderly woman – who remains in an Alaskan hospital – has contracted the disease.

She has a history of health problems. But because she recently changed planes in Toronto, she fit the definition of someone who could have SARS.

If she had changed plans in Calgary or some other Canadian city, she wouldn't be on the SARS suspect list.


Joe at TravelPage.com


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PamM
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posted 06-10-2003 04:39 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The woman spent about 3/4hr in Toronto airport. With her apparent history of illness I thought it completely irresponsible and scare mongering for anyone to suggest SARS. This sort of reporting really seems to be getting out of control.
Like the other report somewhere yesterday stating that an hotel had caught the 'cruise ship virus'.
Pam

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sympatico
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posted 06-10-2003 05:57 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam - I definitely agree with you. I live in Toronto, have no fear of getting SARS, and do not know anyone who has come down with it, has had symptons or been in quarantine.

The media is not helping with their scare tactics.

Green - it was the Volendam and she was air lifted to Juneau. Probably had pneumonia.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-10-2003 06:40 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Like terrorism, the biggest danger from SARS is the fear that the Media spreads about it!
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Green
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posted 06-10-2003 08:03 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now I remember! Reading that she had been removed from the ship with suspected SARS because she spent 40 minutes in Toronto Pearson Airport really annoyed me - decided to 'cool down' before I posted- might have written something really nasty about the reporter.

Toronto is getting a very bad rap on SARS - sure we have several cases but they are well contained and all present suspects are within the Medical Profession - the people who have worked selflessly day and night for many weeks now.

We’re long overdue for a real clamp down on Media reporting.

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gohaze
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posted 06-10-2003 10:29 PM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Green....what about that poor fellow from the States who visited a friend last month - who didn't have SARS - but picked it up anyway.
What about Whitby?
My Doc always tells me to stay away from hospitals as they are the most dangerous places in the world.
Currently I'm fighting that hospital type staph infection that's so difficult to get rid of.
...peter

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Green
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posted 06-11-2003 12:27 AM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gohaze:
Green....what about that poor fellow from the States who visited a friend last month - who didn't have SARS - but picked it up anyway.
What about Whitby?
My Doc always tells me to stay away from hospitals as they are the most dangerous places in the world.
Currently I'm fighting that hospital type staph infection that's so difficult to get rid of.
...peter

Peter you have my sympathies re your staph infection - I've been there - not fun!

Now your post -

The visitor - Has it been confirmed that he does have SARS? I believe the patient suspected of infecting him did not in fact show any signs of SARS until 4 days after the American’s visit.

Whitby - To date SARS has not been confirmed. - over 1,000 people - approximately 400 are Medical Professionals, the others are elderly and/or in long-term health care facilities - have been quarantined. How much more can be done when the disease is only SUSPECTED?

Hospitals and Doctors offices are dangerous places – always have been in my opinion! I only go there when it's really necessary!
I had an experience this weekend after visiting my GP on May 21 for a 'script' refill (really necessary under our Health
Care rules!)- took me no longer than 5 minutes. Out shopping, I came home to find 3 messages on my service – spaced at 1 hour intervals – each message requested me to immediately call my Regional Health Centre. About to do just that, the 4th call came in - someone had been in the Doctors Office on May 21 and had presented SARS symptoms on May 24 – he was quarantined for a full 10 days, until June 3 – he did NOT HAVE SARS - I, (and in-house family members) and everyone else who had been in the office on May 21, were being followed up on to make sure we had no symptoms. Thank God, neither I nor my husband have had any problems.

Toronto is not being 'flip' about SARS - far from it - visiting a Doctor here, you might well be quarantined if your staph diagnosis is anything less than clear cut!

The US Media (and other countries) seem to have forgotten the existence of the word ‘SUSPECTED’ when mentioning SARS.

I continue to feel that Toronto is getting a bad rap!
You Vancouverites should perhaps be saying, "There but for the grace of God go we!"

And oh! what about Monkeypox? Heaven forbid that that spreads.


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gohaze
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posted 06-11-2003 08:11 AM      Profile for gohaze   Email gohaze   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes...re Monkey Pox. How come the WHO hasn't put a "Travel Advisory" out for the US yet? Probably too busy at their cocktail parties organizing the graft !!!.
...peter

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