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Thinking of some of the now normal features of a cruise ship that were not present on the old ocean liners:BuffetWhy would anyone want a buffet. It's just another example of cruise lines trying to take the cheap way out. I'm sure we'll never see any of the prices dropped though. There are low class buffets all over the place on land, when I go on a cruise I expect to be catered to in a dining room.
Show TheaterThis is such a waste of space, it takes up multiple decks. It's never going to be used properly. The only reason they need it is because they got rid of the class system. Instead of having intimate bands and lectures their just going to be mass producing lame shows to cater to the masses. Gone are the days of venues, never going to sail on one of these monstrosities.
Going back to the Titanic some of the "new" gimmicks they announced for her you couldn't build a ships without today:GymnasiumDo we really need a gym at sea? I'm sure they could have found a better use for that space. It's right up on deck, why not use it as another smoking lounge, or a nice tea room for brunch. Have they even met their passengers? When sailing we're trying to relax, get some business done, and build new relationships. The last thing I'm thinking about is exercise, and if I do want some I'll take a walk on deck. We don't need an entire room for it.
PoolIs this supposed to be a joke? Last time we sailed back to the states we hit seas that had to be at least 30 feet high. The ship was rocking like crazy, can't imagine trying to swim in a pool at sea. The water is just going to be splashing all over the place. This'll never last, someone will be killed and then they'll realize how dumb of an idea it was. I can guarantee you that this will be ripped out the first time she goes in for renovations.
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If we go back far enough, such things as electric lights or elevators/lifts aboard ships were considered gimmicks, although the term "novelty" would have been applied.
Rich
Skydiving and surfing is fun. For many people cruise is perfect opportunity to try these while there is not possibility to be at harbor.
They could have build rolling Viking Crown Lounge. Or did they already have such?
Does any cruise ship have yet cabin windows below the sea level?
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quote:Originally posted by Peter P:[...]Does any cruise ship have yet cabin windows below the sea level?
The original Seabourn ships had a window in the underwater hull (I think it's not there anymore).
quote:Originally posted by Peter P:Does any cruise ship have yet cabin windows below the sea level?
Apart from Concordia, no!
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Apart from Concordia, no!
Lolol.. That's terrible.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:I recall seeing a few images of older passenger ships w/the portholes on the lowest decks very near or at the waterline. I assume those ports were sealed shut!
You're right, I've sailed in many outside cabins very close to the waterline. Quite often the portholes would dip underwater as the ships rolled, and during expected heavy weather the stewards would close the deadlights over the portholes, thus making them "inside" cabins.
quote:Originally posted by Ernst:The original Seabourn ships had a window in the underwater hull (I think it's not there anymore).
The Royal Clipper has a Capt Nemo Lounge adjacent to the gym with underwater viewing ports
Pam
The obvious answer is balconies. They started on Royal Princess and are now ubiquitous on all new ships regardless of whether they are deluxe, premium or mass market. Other new standards would be the spa (don't like them myself but they are well used and very profitable), specialty restaurants. At the same time, previous standards such as the Promenade Deck have gone the way of the dodo.
quote:Originally posted by Frosty 4:I have never seen a fish tank with tropical fish on any ship we have sailed. They might have them in the bars which I never frequent.Maybe a nice place would be the library. Watching the fish is relaxing.They have these neat tanks at the Rainforest Cafes here in the US.I used to raise African Ciclids.(fresh water) But salt water fish have dominated the hobby now.Frosty 4
Fish don't fare very well in tanks onboard ships due to the vibrations, harmonic frequencies and constant movement.
Plus, if a tank broke, it would create a huge mess.
That is why you don't see them onboard.
Tim
quote:Originally posted by Tim in Fort Lauderdale:Fish don't fare very well in tanks onboard ships due to the vibrations, harmonic frequencies and constant movement. Plus, if a tank broke, it would create a huge mess. That is why you don't see them onboard. Tim
The original Voyager Class ships had the largest fish tanks at sea. Eventually they just drained them all because they didnt fare very well with the ship rocking and I think most if not all have since been removed during dry docks.
quote:Originally posted by DEIx15x8:Thinking of some of the now normal features of a cruise ship that were not present on the old ocean liners:BuffetWhy would anyone want a buffet. It's just another example of cruise lines trying to take the cheap way out. I'm sure we'll never see any of the prices dropped though. There are low class buffets all over the place on land, when I go on a cruise I expect to be catered to in a dining room. To me it's not a gimmick, there are times when I want to grab a snack and don't want to wait around in one of the restaurants.[b]Show TheaterThis is such a waste of space, it takes up multiple decks. It's never going to be used properly. The only reason they need it is because they got rid of the class system. Instead of having intimate bands and lectures their just going to be mass producing lame shows to cater to the masses. Gone are the days of venues, never going to sail on one of these monstrosities.Then you are very much in the minority, go on any cruise and you will see the theaters being well used, for shows, lectures and an assortment of other things.[b]GymnasiumDo we really need a gym at sea? I'm sure they could have found a better use for that space. It's right up on deck, why not use it as another smoking lounge, or a nice tea room for brunch. Have they even met their passengers? When sailing we're trying to relax, get some business done, and build new relationships. The last thing I'm thinking about is exercise, and if I do want some I'll take a walk on deck. We don't need an entire room for it. Again, you are out of touch, go to the gym on a modern ship, you will find them well used.[b]PoolIs this supposed to be a joke? Last time we sailed back to the states we hit seas that had to be at least 30 feet high. The ship was rocking like crazy, can't imagine trying to swim in a pool at sea. The water is just going to be splashing all over the place. This'll never last, someone will be killed and then they'll realize how dumb of an idea it was. I can guarantee you that this will be ripped out the first time she goes in for renovations.[b] I hate to say this , but when was the last time you were on a cruise ? All the things you have listed are used on every ship I have been on, i'm sorry to say that if you think a ship is going to launch now days without a gym, some type of theater venue (yes certainly the smaller ships do not have a full theater). [ 04-21-2013: Message edited by: DEIx15x8 ]
To me it's not a gimmick, there are times when I want to grab a snack and don't want to wait around in one of the restaurants.
[b]Show TheaterThis is such a waste of space, it takes up multiple decks. It's never going to be used properly. The only reason they need it is because they got rid of the class system. Instead of having intimate bands and lectures their just going to be mass producing lame shows to cater to the masses. Gone are the days of venues, never going to sail on one of these monstrosities.
Then you are very much in the minority, go on any cruise and you will see the theaters being well used, for shows, lectures and an assortment of other things.
[b]GymnasiumDo we really need a gym at sea? I'm sure they could have found a better use for that space. It's right up on deck, why not use it as another smoking lounge, or a nice tea room for brunch. Have they even met their passengers? When sailing we're trying to relax, get some business done, and build new relationships. The last thing I'm thinking about is exercise, and if I do want some I'll take a walk on deck. We don't need an entire room for it.
Again, you are out of touch, go to the gym on a modern ship, you will find them well used.
[b]PoolIs this supposed to be a joke? Last time we sailed back to the states we hit seas that had to be at least 30 feet high. The ship was rocking like crazy, can't imagine trying to swim in a pool at sea. The water is just going to be splashing all over the place. This'll never last, someone will be killed and then they'll realize how dumb of an idea it was. I can guarantee you that this will be ripped out the first time she goes in for renovations.
[b] I hate to say this , but when was the last time you were on a cruise ? All the things you have listed are used on every ship I have been on, i'm sorry to say that if you think a ship is going to launch now days without a gym, some type of theater venue (yes certainly the smaller ships do not have a full theater).
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quote:Originally posted by jetwet1:[ 04-25-2013: Message edited by: jetwet1 ]
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Pools have been on ships for over 100 years. As a kid I loved the sloshing water at sea and would ride the waves. As a old fart, it is great to relax in the water after a long day in port, do water aerobics and just relax.
Gymnasium: 1907 Mauretania had a gym. I use it every day [not the Mauretania] on a cruise. Since eating much more than at home, it holds off the weight gain, and meet fun people next to me when riding the elliptical trainer.
Theater: enjoyed many a show, and on the SS Norway was standing room only for Guys and Dolls.
There is little backward compatibility with one raised ion modern ships to the likes of a 1939 classic liner. Most passengers would be bored to death with the only activities as reading, shuffleboard, playing cards, ballroom dancing and a nightly movie. Queen Mary 2 which harkens to the golden age has 2 theaters, 4 swimming pools, and a state of the art gymnasium.
Frosty 4
quote:Originally posted by jetwet1:I hate to say this , but when was the last time you were on a cruise ? All the things you have listed are used on every ship I have been on, i'm sorry to say that if you think a ship is going to launch now days without a gym, some type of theater venue (yes certainly the smaller ships do not have a full theater).
quote:Originally posted by DEIx15x8:I thought it would be fun to think back to some of the gimmicks we've had in the past and just think about what posts we would have seen if Cruise Talk existed back then.
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